thats fine loco, i wasnt talking about lockup. i was talking about the plants being a little stressed in the beginning due to being rootbound. and no im not positive about it but i get a much better rootball(and node spacing?) if i start out in a beer cup than if i was to start out with a 3 gallon pot. i dont mean keep them there, and i did ask for others oppinions on the matter. i was stictly outdoors previously and i do it the same way.