Lucid Dreaming.

[Chronisseur]

Does ANYONE agree/understand what I'm trying to say, or am I on my own w this one?

Chronisseur Reviewed by Chronisseur on 07-21-2007. Lucid Dreaming. Well, recently ive become 'very' interested in this im not sure if everyone knows about this but its not something that 'everyone' knows about really. I've recently joined another forum at dreamviews.com which is a website about ludid dreaming, what they say is ANYONE can do this as long as you are dedicated and put it effort, It would just be so cool to be able to experience this let alone do it every single night. For those of you who dont know what it is its basically, when you realise Rating: 5

[reality0]

i understand what your saying completely... and i also understand that our mind is unlimited with the things that we could do... but, everything needs pioneers... :jointsmile:

[Oh My High]

You have yet to provide any evidence why it's potentially extremely dangerous or even dangerous to lucid dream. Without relying on poor metaphors or analogies, what?

[Chronisseur]

People tend to misuse and abuse power. What is knowledge...?

The danger I was referring to, is clinically referred to as insanity. Many people get "lost" in themselves, and end up with "mental:wtf:knots" that can take a lifetime to untie. I've seen this, I've experienced this, and will not waste MY time posting the thousands of case studies that support this.

So maybe I'M crazy, but I'm typing this post for the general well being of the cannabis.com community.

PS: are my metaphors really that "poor"

[Chronisseur]

....and DO NOT let me discourage anyone from LD!
Thats not at all my intention. Just to be safe and responsible while in pursuit of something so powerful.:stoned:

[Oh My High]

The danger I was referring to, is clinically referred to as insanity. Many people get "lost" in themselves, and end up with "mental:wtf:knots" that can take a lifetime to untie. I've seen this, I've experienced this, and will not waste MY time posting the thousands of case studies that support this.

Insanity is not a clinical term and as such there is no clinical definition. What is the clinical term for these "mental knots" of people who get "lost" in themselves, and demonstrate where in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Vol. IV in which it is stated lucid dreams are the cause. There is no need to spend time individually describing thousands of anecdotal (non-scientific) stories, but demonstrate where in the Journal of the American Medical Association or the New England Journal of Medicine where are the aggregate studies.

Metaphors can be effective but only when supplementary to FACTS and not in replacement of reality. You resort to metaphors and cop outs because, of course, as we both know, your position is baseless.

[azure]

Folks, we're human beings (most of us)!

Our brains, and bodies are precisely tuned for our environment. Metaphorically speaking, do you think their are no potentially negative reactions to a new car upon introducing rocket fuel in place of unleaded gasoline?
...Im bad @ explaining things but I will not stop trying till you guys get it!!!

Ok...grow a beautiful tree, and when it starts to flower, dump a ton of 20-20-20 and whats happens?
Anybody?
It dies because its unfamiliar and cannot handle something it could have, had it been slowly introduced.
...still dont get it?(go smoke one)
:smokin:
Better now? Good!
My point is this: Anything can be destroyed or damaged by a "natural" component in excess.
As a strong advocate for exploring the unknown, I feel it is a duty of mine to promote safe, somewhat controlled learning.

...think along the lines of us only using 7-10% of our brains and theoretically turning into a sphere of energy @ 30-35%:wtf:

Based on the metaphores youre using having a lucid dream is an unfamiliar experience, how can this be possible when we control our lives outside of dreaming, of course not to the same extent, but that is where the definition of the word "dream" comes in, you know its not real so to control it you have to realise its a dream [something which may bend laws of the physical world].

If anything non lucid dreaming is more likely to frazzle our brains because were not in control of it and is less real than what were used to, the subconcious bieng the "rocket fuel" that you describe, or more specifically things witnessed by the concious filtered and repieced by the subconcious.

"Anything can be destroyed or damaged by a "natural" component in excess."
Dont see how this is applicable here since youre implying lucid dreaming alone will cause this, even though its the real events in your concious life that are the real "natural components" to swerve someone in a more non sane direction, unless you think these would play on the mind more within lucid dreaming.. in which they wouldnt because you are LUCID.. you are in control if you dont like what you see you can click your heels together and your back to cansas.

I think you got caught up on your own thought train here and didnt think it through properly. No offense.


So onto my experiences of lucid dreaming.. im much more interested in astral projection now but lucid dreams are still a fun way to recharge your batteries. Ive been having them since a kid and are normally triggered by obvious things such as bieng underwater in a dream for extended periods, or more recently just realising how much more distorted reality is and taking control, recently looking at a spot in front of me in the dream eg. 100 foot ahead on the pavement, clicking my fingers and bieng there, so teleportation, also have had floating and flying which are equally cool.
It takes quite some mental concentration to keep lucid sometimes though as it seems the easier option to just let the subconcious take control and sit back and watch.

Best way to get into it i think is to integrate reality checks into your life every day [when noones looking ofc] such as pinching yourself, checking your watch numerous times to see if the time stays on track, unlike in dreams where it never seems to. So that when you start dreaming you'll do it and realise.

man what a rant!

[Chronisseur]

Debate what you will.

I've got my thoughts, you've got yours and the scientists have theirs.
(all of which are valid)
What's the truth? Better yet, who's the judge?

PS: you've been good critics, have fun:thumbsup:

[TheAtomicPunk]

Last night I was more lucid than I had been in a long time. I was playing in the snow when it was like 70 degrees out, went into my friends basement and it eventually turned into a jungle and I was rafting down waterfalls, haha. Later had one that I was driving and some helicopter was following me and there was some celebrity in a car in front of me, idk...

[Oh My High]

I've got my thoughts, you've got yours and the scientists have theirs.
(all of which are valid)

What's the truth? Better yet, who's the judge?

All ideas are not equally valid.