I'm sorry for pusing the issue..if anyone wants this thread to die.. but
nightwolf, i'm not judging you because i don't know you but that "im a rocker cause i listen to it and so are my friends" attitude is the same thing the "gangster" kids do with "gansta rap"

be yourself man. i listen to rap, rock, blues, jazz, colombian folk music, salsa....techno....southern rock...classic rock.. i pretty much listen to ALL kinds of music but it does not label me.
it sucks because i know EXACTLY what you are talking about(rappers, rockers, skateboarders, gothic...all that shit) and it is ruining american schools, in my opinion..

peace and love nightwolf.. i am not picking a fight with you.