All this shit started in New York when the "rap" artists started the trend of dressing like guys going to jail, which includes the shoe-laces untied so that they can't run away. To idolize muggers, and other criminals, is just stupid. I blame it on the breakdown of the family, and the relegation of fatherhood to the level of an unnecessary relic. You catch one of these gang-punks alone, and they're afraid to even look you in the eye.