Quote Originally Posted by jaGerbom
i can only remember one time where the smoke made me want to cough out of a waterfall. most of the time the smoke is very cooled down already so it gos down great for me. i can handle the staleness. it isnt too bad if you do it quickly.
Well both the 20oz water bottle, and the Sobe bottle pull about the same, and take about the same time to fill. Granted I could just have too small of a hole in the bottom of them, but I like to be able to cover up the hole with my finger when I am using it.

And normally I can handle it pretty well too, but last few times its just been rough as all hell. Both my roommates and myself got some harsh ass hits out of it, and small ones at that. I can take some pretty big hits, and this was hurting like something worse then those, even though I could pretty much zero the smoke if I held it for even a few seconds.