Let the lord judge the criminals.

[JaggedEdge]

Dude thats fucked up! I know here in the USA ,or at least in most states, its legal to use deadly force if someone is robbing your house. Its considered defending yourself.

And for the second won that too is dumb as doorknob. I mean if you leave it unattended you still own it. Its your home your property. If someone was living in it even if it was unattended you could charge that person with breaking and entering and possibly vagrancy.

It depends on the individual state. In some states it's as simple as fearing for your life or the life of another. In others you are required to equal or lesser force in order to defend yourself (I'm not 100% sure on this.) Many states require you to try and flee before you use deadly force, where as others, like my lovely state, allow you to kill fire preemptively as soon as someone enters your private property without permission.

Overall it depends on the state though.

Side note:
There was a case here a few years ago where a guy shot someone from his balcony who was breaking into his car. He was tired of his shit getting stolen in New Orleans, so he killed the next kid he saw doing it. I supported him, unfortunately he was convicted...

[jdmarcus59]

Hmm Interesting discussion lol

I think you have to realise that these questions and contradictions are so obvious that they must hold a valid explanation, well, did not the Templars for example roam the land killing their enemies and often torturing innocent people, killing innocent people for not falling to the will of Christ?

The thing is, although there are a multiverse (a theory which states there are an infinite number of universes beyond "ours" lol) of contradictions and what I would call misinterpretations but what some would call LIES in the Bible you must understand that there are people on this planet who apparently represent Jesus.

Such as the Pope, the Pope has the ability to call certain decisions in the name of Christ, so if that means killing innocent people without justice and evidence (because christians love a world based on zero evidence) then so he shall do that.

The Pope can bend the laws of Christ, I heard by a very highly regarded astro-theologist that the Pope is considered, in very high areas of the Roman Catholic religion to be Jesus' VICAR.

there is more then enough evidence to prove chrisrtianty, but Iam not going to debate it with you, cause I dont think you care based
on every thing you write, which brings me to this point, Why do you feel the need to keep coming on this web site and continue to direspect christian with comments like{ christian love a world based on zero evidence} when you make comments like that, that
only shows me that you do not know what you are talking about. And if you do not belive in God then why waist your time putting Him down? if you can not rise above your chidish chatter, then mabey you should not say anything at all, because all you are doing is making your self seem foolish. And remember this site is to be used with respect while posting.

[Hardcore Newbie]

One stupid law well in the uk anyway infact most of them protect the real criminals for example if a burgular breaks into your house and you injure them or they injure themselves while inside your property they have the right to sue you which is pretty FUCKED UP!

Also another messed up one, if you leave your house unattended and they manage to get in somehow without breaking an entry eg walking through the door climbing in through the window then they can Legally stay there ie they legally own it and you have to take them to court to get them out of your own house which could take years, its called squatting pretty fucked up eh.

If both of these are true, then someone squatting in your house can't hurt you when you break in to take it back :P

[krazy chino]

who ever said the country was runned by christians???? lol im convinced that the freemasons could possibly be running this country in sum way........but not christians hahahaha lol that was funny that rayg dog was actually serious about that

[bhouncy]

If both of these are true, then someone squatting in your house can't hurt you when you break in to take it back :P

Can't fault your logic there.

[WeedyBoyWonder]

Also another messed up one, if you leave your house unattended and they manage to get in somehow without breaking an entry eg walking through the door climbing in through the window then they can Legally stay there ie they legally own it and you have to take them to court to get them out of your own house which could take years, its called squatting pretty fucked up eh.

The thing about squatting is not quite like that, there has to be no active residence of the property, a "section 6" must be displayed on the door and there must be atleast one person in the property at all times to have "squatters rights", or something to that effect.

As for the thread, I was just reading. I'm indecisive all things this deep, because nobody knows, reading for the opinions.

[cannabis campbell]

If both of these are true, then someone squatting in your house can't hurt you when you break in to take it back :P

Can't fault your logic there.

Key word "break in" yes I know technically its still your property but they do have a right to it you would be charged with breaking and entering! Thats why its fucked up.

The thing about squatting is not quite like that, there has to be no active residence of the property, a "section 6" must be displayed on the door and there must be atleast one person in the property at all times to have "squatters rights", or something to that effect.

As for the thread, I was just reading. I'm indecisive all things this deep, because nobody knows, reading for the opinions.

Yeah I know that, thats what I meant sorry if i didnt make it clear basically if you leave your house unattended "WITH NO ONE INSIDE" then they cant grab it of you a pretty stupid loophole.

[Hardcore Newbie]

Key word "break in" yes I know technically its still your property but they do have a right to it you would be charged with breaking and entering! Thats why its fucked up.

I was just going by what you wrote. You said if a burglar breaks in to your house, and they injure themselves, the burglar can sue. So if a squatter takes over your house because of a loophole, then you can "break in", like a burglar, and they can't hurt you, according to what you wrote. If they hurt you, you can sue, make it worth the house

[Fallen_Icarus]

there is more then enough evidence to prove chrisrtianty

Is there really? Is there enough evidence to throw the class of science of their entire theories of human existence and fall to the will of the theory... "GOD DID IT"?

Hmm, then why havent they?

but Iam not going to debate it

Why not, thats quite a defence you jump to, how about backing it with a thorough debate.

cause I dont think you care based
on every thing you write,

Well I would care if you could show me that your religion made any sense.

why do you feel the need to keep coming on this web site and continue to direspect christian with comments like{ christian love a world based on zero evidence}

Because I have the freedom to do so.



Normal readers are advised not to read the following passage, it is intended for "jdmarcus59"

I am not sorry if I have offended you, it is your own problem, the world is no longer a dessert, and think about that carefully, when I speak to people like you, I cant ever help but feel I am trying to communicate with a small village in a dessert surrounded by a barren, deserted, impecunious, impoverished wide area of land which contained in the centre, your town, your ideas and your beliefs.

Trying to communicate with this town can be difficult if not impossible, yet, if you are content with your beliefs, if they cause you nothing but pleasure throughout your entire life, if you have no doubt whatsoever in your mind regarding these beliefs and ideas of life and afterlife. If when you go to church on Sunday your pastor does not advise you on which way to vote, then id say stay put.

But, if your going to let your beliefs have an inflicting nature upon the freedom of ones speech, or the ideas of an open mind and infinite thinking which does not end when a holy book closes. If your going to allow your pastor to tell you which way to vote, if your sitting there trying to convince me to my mind atleast that 2 + 2 = 3.5, or if you ever, EVER threaten a child with eternal hell and torture, then I suggest you get yourself some sandals and go for a long long walk.

And its going to be painful.

There's no two ways about it, its going to take time and effort on your behalf. That thing of beauty you view in your mind everyday will fall when you look into science that thing you believe to be infinite truth, the doctrine you were raised around, the beautiful image of heaven, infinite peace and being with God and Jesus in the land of milk and honey... It will crumble when you look into science.

It will be like taking a few steps into that dessert, it will seem cold, barren, you will feel lost, yet wouldn't you prefer to be in a place which will provide you an infinite amount of freedom and an infinite amount of thought? Compiled together without the fear of being eternally burned alive in the pits of hell?

Wouldnâ??t you prefer a place where you know deep down that you were just in your deserted, small, isolated town of heaven all along? Or in reality may I add, if we move away from the dessert and town allegory - your psychological protection from the truth? Your cushion of comfort? You know the kind of cushion a child has when he/she is afraid?

It is difficult to write off millions of years of the belief and fear of an outer 'God' head figure whom is responsible for the volcanoes, the rain storms, thunder storms, the magical white dots in the sky at night drawn upon by the Gods, (what we call stars), and the man in the chariot whom draws the God across the sky with the use of flying horses? (What we call the sun, or what is in actual fact, just another star, one in an infinite number!!) or how about the injustice in the world? The sins? The whole question of the lack of justice? I was a terror in my teens is it justified that I spend eternity in hell? If one had sex before marriage, is it justified that God throw me in HELL for an eternity?

And remember if you times 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, by 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000 DECADES your not even mathematically close to beginning eternity.

Or how about a more obvious example? For simply not believing enough, I mean, indoctrinated people will go to major lengths to show their strength of belief and dedication to their indoctrination, im sure if you watched FOX news for 30 seconds you would find fitting examples. What about the justice for those actions?

...

Sorry for dragging you out into the sand a bit, but you have to make that choice, you can leave that town and head off into the dessert, and it will seem like a barren area of empty uncomforting, unsatisfying space, yet if you keep going, and I am always telling people to keep going, you will see some tree's on the horizon, there is water there and signs of civilisation, large amounts of civilisation at a growing rate. There are no promises of an afterlife of eternal joy and heaven, there are no promises of heaven whatsoever, or even any kind of afterlife, there are no threats or promises of eternal punishment, perdition and damnation for the sins.

You will loose the promise of eternal peace and love, but in place you will find a coherent story, a logical, organized, consistently rational, eloquent, expressive, fluent and apprehensible story of our universe and the infinite space and time that surrounds us.

There is no loom of fear over your actions, there is no corrupt priests or caliphs hypocritical doctrines and beliefs, there are no corrupt doctrines, no wars between sects of indoctrinated people, there are none of these.


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So think twice when you question what I write and add statements like:

when you make comments like that

And..

And if you do not belive in God then why waist your time putting Him down?

And also...

if you can not rise above your chidish chatter, then mabey you should not say anything at all, because all you are doing is making your self seem foolish.

And after all of that he writes:

And remember this site is to be used with respect while posting.

You should remember that this website is an expression of the many freedoms we are loosing, the freedom to sample a plant in the privacy of your own home, a plant which has been used by humans since the dawn of time.

There is also something else man has used since the dawn of time, his mind, and it feels pretty good when you have the freedom to open and use it.

And remember, the mind is like a parachute, it can only work when it is open.









:thumbsup:

[jdmarcus59]

wow I feel sorry for you. I guess you dont get the part about respect.