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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Been readin' these boards for a few months now. Thanks much for the wealth of knowledge contained herein.

    I've grown the odd plant outdoors, but this is my first indoor attempt. Hopefully this log can help others, as well as myself.

    I ordered 10 Joey's Mix seeds from Hemp Depot.Marijuana Cannabis seeds at Hemp Depot Shipped Worldwide I have no idea what strain they are. They are supposed to be a random mix from Joey's Weed. $35 plus tax. Cheap, but I'm just experimenting right now.

    I sprouted 6 in paper towel within about a week span, and planted them in 3 inch pots with some generic peat based potting mix (no nutes in mix).

    They moved around from window sill to outside for a while, until I could hang some lights, where they've been since June 28th. They were 1-2 weeks old. I started with a couple of 4' Gro-Lux wide spectrum flourescents, but I don't think they liked it. They are now under 3 34W cool whites.

    Transplanted June 5th, at 2-3 weeks. The roots of the older plants were just starting to crawl along the bottom of the pots. I put them in 8'x 10" (2 gallon) pails with holes drilled in the bottom. I used Pro Mix High Porosity mix, and watered them with Britta filtered tap water, which was allowed to stand over night. I added a few drops of Superthrive per gallon. Each pot took nearly a gallon of water before it started dripping out the bottom. The ph of the water was about 7, and the runoff ph was around 6 (my ph strips aren't very accurate).

    Temps have been fairly constant at around 23C (73F) in the room, and 25C (77F) around the plants. Humidity is around 40-50 percent.

    They are now 4-5 weeks old, and working on 4 and 5 nodes. Click the pics to enlarge.



    I've numbered the plants as they were planted. 1 is the oldest, 6 is the youngest. About a week span between them.

    Since I don't know what strains they are, educated guesses are welcome.

    This is #1. The tallest and widest. Her and #2 got orange spots on their first true leaves when they were under the Grow-Lux. I figure it's just light burn, since no other leaves have them.





    #2 has a kind of bubbly mottled texture to the leaves, even the new ones. It's the bushiest and smelliest of the bunch. In the last pic, you can see three things:

    - the mottled texture
    - the orange spots on the first true leaves
    - and on the far left, there are some white spots. This is on a couple other plants as well. There are very tiny black specks around and on the spots. Mites?







    #3 is a nice healthy looking specimen. Except for a few of those white spots/black specks.





    #4 has a mutant second node. Half of it didn't grow properly. The white spot is probably housefly shit. I'm usink Konk now, for flies. I saw a couple of what looked like fungus gnats for a day or two, but they're dead now.






    #5 has twisted leaves





    #6 is the slowest growing. It took a looong time for it to shed it's seed casing. I had to help it a bit.





    The last time they've had water was 8 days ago, when they were transplanted. I want to start giving them nutes (3-1-3), but the medium is still moist, and they don't seem thirsty at all. Should I wait until the soil is drier?

    For the size of the pots, when should I start flowering? I don't want to transplant again, and I don't want the plants to get too rootbound. I'll be using lots of 24W warm cfl's because I have about 50 of them (don't ask). I'll be doing some light lst, and space isn't a problem, just the pot size.

    Thanks for checking out my grow. Advice and comments are welcome.
    Raskolnikov Reviewed by Raskolnikov on . Raskolnikov Grows The Pot Been readin' these boards for a few months now. Thanks much for the wealth of knowledge contained herein. I've grown the odd plant outdoors, but this is my first indoor attempt. Hopefully this log can help others, as well as myself. I ordered 10 Joey's Mix seeds from Hemp Depot.Marijuana Cannabis seeds at Hemp Depot Shipped Worldwide I have no idea what strain they are. They are supposed to be a random mix from Joey's Weed. $35 plus tax. Cheap, but I'm just experimenting right now. I Rating: 5
    \"You gotta start growing dope again, Ricky. You gotta get your life together.\"

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Nice plants, I'd much rather know what I'm growing though. Too many different possibilities. But regardless they should be good. Joey has a lot of good strains! Honestly if they don't look like they want food more than likely they are fine. They really don't look like they need any nutrients. Also they look fine, don't see any signs of mites causing probs. You should really get a microscope so you can get a closer look. If you start seeing little tiny holes all over the place though that's a sure sign that you have a prob. If your room is clean, your clothes are clean and your soil is hi-qual sterile soil you should have no probs with mites..hopefully. And depending on the size you want them to be, you might have to transplant them again. And don't worry about flowering for another month or so. Just enjoy them and watch 'em grow for now .

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Quote Originally Posted by orangeman
    Nice plants, I'd much rather know what I'm growing though. Too many different possibilities. But regardless they should be good. Joey has a lot of good strains!
    I had trouble deciding on a strain, so I figured a variety would let me see which grows best under my conditions, but the seeds weren't individually labeled. I'd prefer to know too.

    Quote Originally Posted by orangeman
    Honestly if they don't look like they want food more than likely they are fine. They really don't look like they need any nutrients.
    Good, I'll wait until next watering then.

    Quote Originally Posted by orangeman
    Also they look fine, don't see any signs of mites causing probs. You should really get a microscope so you can get a closer look. If you start seeing little tiny holes all over the place though that's a sure sign that you have a prob.
    I have a big ass magnifying glass from my grandmother. She hung it around her neck for reading while gumming bits of whatever was in her mouth. I can't see the black specs with the naked eye. I'll keep an eye out for those holes.

    Quote Originally Posted by orangeman
    If your room is clean, your clothes are clean and your soil is hi-qual sterile soil you should have no probs with mites..hopefully.
    This is why I'm now going to put these straight to flower without bothering to clone. I'll start from scratch with one strain in a sterile environment. Then clone and ScrOG with an HPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by orangeman
    And depending on the size you want them to be, you might have to transplant them again.
    I'd be happy with 2-3' plants.

    Quote Originally Posted by orangeman
    And don't worry about flowering for another month or so. Just enjoy them and watch 'em grow for now .
    Thanks! I will, and I do!
    \"You gotta start growing dope again, Ricky. You gotta get your life together.\"

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Honestly they don't look like they're going to need nutrients for some while now. You might wanna wait another 3 weeks before even considering giving them anything. They are more than fine right now. No need to feed em, they just need some nice clean water .

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    What you say makes sense, I will heed thy wisdom. Gave them all a drink tonight with filtered aged tap water (couldn't help adding a wee bit of Superthrive). They took about 1.5 liters.

    BUT

    I am experimenting, soooo... I gave #4 full nutes, just to see what happens. Half it's leaves and side branches are all mutated anyway.

    AND

    #5 has topped itself. The second node just withered up, and it's now growing 2 nice branches from the first node, each with 2 nodes already.

    THAT

    is all for now.



    P.S. How bad is it if a cat licks up some spilled nutrient water, lol....
    \"You gotta start growing dope again, Ricky. You gotta get your life together.\"

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Geez don't kill your cat and your plants . I'm telling you it really wasn't necessary but you'll see the results soon .

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Lord knows the cat certainly doesn't need any more nutrients, damn fat thing. Ah well, it was only a few licks before I stopped her.

    Been wondering how many lights I could have for a grow without drawing suspicious amounts of electricity, and I found a cool little equation for determining how many total watts you're drawing. It really gives you a good idea of your power consumption. Not sure if this has been posted before...

    First thing you need is the kh number, stamped on the face of the meter. It's probably 7.2, like mine. Then you count how many seconds it takes for the big wheel to spin around once, and plug it into this equation:

    Watts = 3660 x kh ÷ seconds

    I turned on a bunch of lights and the central AC, and it took 8 seconds to spin around once.

    So 3660 x 7.2 ÷ 8 = 3294 Watts

    Of course the AC doesn't run all the time, but it's still good to know I can draw over 3000 W under normal circumstances.

    Turned off the AC, left the furnace fan running... 1145 Watts
    Turned off the furnace fan... 750 Watts. Wow, that fan uses almost 400 Watts
    Turned off my monitor... down to 710 Watts.
    Turned off the PC... drawing 600 watts total.
    I went around and turned off all the lights, radios, etc and got down to 300 Watts. That would be for the grow lights, fan, fridge, and misc. clocks, microwave, answering machine, etc.

    Multiply your watt usage by .72 to get the monthly total kWh. A constant draw of 300 Watts is about 215 kWh per month. Average household usage in my area is 900 kWh.

    So I could easily have 2 1000 Watt lights alternating 12/12. Even if I used 500 Watts constantly, plus the lights, that would bring my total to just over average.

    To double check, I can see my neighbour's meter from my kitchen window. They use between 1500 and 2500 Watts constantly, without the AC on. So me running 2 1000 Watt lights would be no problem at all, if I minimize my usage of all the other little power gobblers.
    \"You gotta start growing dope again, Ricky. You gotta get your life together.\"

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Wow nice work with doing all those figures lol. I couldn't do that by my self, if there's one thing I suck at, it's math. In the future I think I'm probably only gonna use a total of 750 watts for my grows. I plan on doing having perpetual harvest thing going. Use about 150 watts for my clones and just 600 watts for my mature clones (donors for cuttings) and flowering clones. But I hear just as long as you give the people the money when they want it (your electricity company) you shouldn't have any issues.

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Rasko, i'll share a lil advice i saw and was given.

    the roots need some breathing of O2 from time to time.
    its better to let them go a lil extra dry for a day than to keep them too moist too often for too long.

    I experimented with this advice and found that even when i forced myself to wait an extra day to let em get extra dry and breath, they bounced rite back with no worries.
    but, the opposite result would be that they get too wet for too long and that can kill em,and im sure that would be more difficult to recover.
    another thing i noticed. the difference between watering with or without superthrive. I will say that watering (and foliar spaying) with ST in small doses did far more good than plain water. at one point i decided it was such a positive that i now do add it for every single watering, nutes or not. they love it.

    stay away from the watering can for a while, and get a cheapo moisture meter, definately worth it. less than 10clams at hardware joint(HD,lowes,etc)

    i thought they needed water (top 1.5 inched were dry) but, the moisture meter told a different stoy at root level. so, i waited. they didnt mind.
    I now only water when the meter reads dry down in the lower half of the pot.

    thats all i got. im still in my own learning curve. :wtf:

    Good luck with ur grow!:thumbsup:

    Rock.

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    Raskolnikov Grows The Pot

    Also when you get used to your the whole process of this method, if you're too cheap to buy a moisture meter (like me lol) you can try the "lifting-the-pots" method which all you simply do is determine how much water is in them from the heaviness of the pots. It works well for me, never over-watered my plants.

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