I did the Device Manager thing and it shows up as "BisonCam, NP Pro" under imaging devices, and there is says the device is working properly and I tried to do the update driver thing, but it said the driver is already up to date. The only related file I can find on the computer is when I go to the start menu and click explore and go to the windows.old folder, and it comes up as "BisonCam", then I clicked on that, and it gave the option "live cam" but when you click on that, it just comes up, but never starts to work--not responding or whatever. I don't even think that is the same one, I think it was updated, but I don't know where to find the file. And Vista is not slow on the computer, it has just been annoying to me. At 1st it kept cutting off the internet connection, (wireless) and it would show a blue screen sometimes and just restart, but after I did the "clean install" I haven't had those issues. I just sometimes get annoyed with machines, I just want them to work on their own, lol.