damn gotta bat these athiests away with a big stick or somthin lol if you dont understand and you want a "logical" answer, but not a spiritual logical answer than i would just have to decend to your lower way of thinking simply to answer pointless questions. You only choose to look at the material universe not reality but yes when it comes down to it it is all reality..im just separating what you think is real...and what really is real.