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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Come-on people, wake the hell up!!!!

    I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
    I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.

    I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.

    I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.

    I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but to stifle dissent.

    I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.

    I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.

    I accuse you of handing part of this Republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.

    And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.










    ??I didn??t vote for him,? an American once said, ??But he??s my president, and I hope he does a good job.?

    That??on this eve of the 4th of July??is the essence of this democracy, in 17 words. And that is what President Bush threw away yesterday in commuting the sentence of Lewis ??Scooter? Libby\

    The man who said those 17 words??improbably enough??was the actor John Wayne. And Wayne, an ultra-conservative, said them, when he learned of the hair??s-breadth election of John F. Kennedy instead of his personal favorite, Richard Nixon in 1960.

    ??I didn??t vote for him but he??s my president, and I hope he does a good job.?

    The sentiment was doubtlessly expressed earlier, but there is something especially appropriate about hearing it, now, in Wayne??s voice: The crisp matter-of-fact acknowledgement that we have survived, even though for nearly two centuries now, our Commander-in-Chief has also served, simultaneously, as the head of one political party and often the scourge of all others.

    We as citizens must, at some point, ignore a president??s partisanship. Not that we may prosper as a nation, not that we may achieve, not that we may lead the world??but merely that we may function.

    But just as essential to the seventeen words of John Wayne, is an implicit trust??a sacred trust: That the president for whom so many did not vote, can in turn suspend his political self long enough, and for matters imperative enough, to conduct himself solely for the benefit of the entire Republic.

    Our generation??s willingness to state ??we didn??t vote for him, but he??s our president, and we hope he does a good job,? was tested in the crucible of history, and earlier than most.

    And in circumstances more tragic and threatening. And we did that with which history tasked us.

    We enveloped our President in 2001.And those who did not believe he should have been elected??indeed those who did not believe he had been elected??willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship.

    And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and shaped it to a razor-sharp point and stabbed this nation in the back with it.

    Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers.Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign - Countdown with Keith Olbermann - MSNBC.com
    eg420ne Reviewed by eg420ne on . Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign Come-on people, wake the hell up!!!! I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war. I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11. I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient. I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors. I accuse you of subverting Rating: 5

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  3.     
    #2
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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Quote Originally Posted by eg420ne
    Come-on people, wake the hell up!!!!

    I accuse you, Mr. Bush, of lying this country into war.
    I accuse you of fabricating in the minds of your own people, a false implied link between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.

    I accuse you of firing the generals who told you that the plans for Iraq were disastrously insufficient.

    I accuse you of causing in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors.

    I accuse you of subverting the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but to stifle dissent.

    I accuse you of fomenting fear among your own people, of creating the very terror you claim to have fought.

    I accuse you of exploiting that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of your own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander your critics and libel your opponents.

    I accuse you of handing part of this Republic over to a Vice President who is without conscience, and letting him run roughshod over it.

    And I accuse you now, Mr. Bush, of giving, through that Vice President, carte blanche to Mr. Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with your guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice.










    ??I didn??t vote for him,? an American once said, ??But he??s my president, and I hope he does a good job.?

    That??on this eve of the 4th of July??is the essence of this democracy, in 17 words. And that is what President Bush threw away yesterday in commuting the sentence of Lewis ??Scooter? Libby\

    The man who said those 17 words??improbably enough??was the actor John Wayne. And Wayne, an ultra-conservative, said them, when he learned of the hair??s-breadth election of John F. Kennedy instead of his personal favorite, Richard Nixon in 1960.

    ??I didn??t vote for him but he??s my president, and I hope he does a good job.?

    The sentiment was doubtlessly expressed earlier, but there is something especially appropriate about hearing it, now, in Wayne??s voice: The crisp matter-of-fact acknowledgement that we have survived, even though for nearly two centuries now, our Commander-in-Chief has also served, simultaneously, as the head of one political party and often the scourge of all others.

    We as citizens must, at some point, ignore a president??s partisanship. Not that we may prosper as a nation, not that we may achieve, not that we may lead the world??but merely that we may function.

    But just as essential to the seventeen words of John Wayne, is an implicit trust??a sacred trust: That the president for whom so many did not vote, can in turn suspend his political self long enough, and for matters imperative enough, to conduct himself solely for the benefit of the entire Republic.

    Our generation??s willingness to state ??we didn??t vote for him, but he??s our president, and we hope he does a good job,? was tested in the crucible of history, and earlier than most.

    And in circumstances more tragic and threatening. And we did that with which history tasked us.

    We enveloped our President in 2001.And those who did not believe he should have been elected??indeed those who did not believe he had been elected??willingly lowered their voices and assented to the sacred oath of non-partisanship.

    And George W. Bush took our assent, and re-configured it, and honed it, and shaped it to a razor-sharp point and stabbed this nation in the back with it.

    Were there any remaining lingering doubt otherwise, or any remaining lingering hope, it ended yesterday when Mr. Bush commuted the prison sentence of one of his own staffers.Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign - Countdown with Keith Olbermann - MSNBC.com
    I agree with Keith 100%. He is my news hero.

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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Here's the problem with Bush and Cheney resigning, as I see it. The same thing pretty much applies to impeachment.

    Cheney would resign first (or in the event of a probable impeachment), then Bush would appoint a new V.P. Once Bush was out of office his new V.P. would become Pres, allowing him to run as an incumbent in the next election. (This time the new pres would wait until after the election to pardon Bush and Cheney, having learned from Ford what not to do.)

    I can't imagine a worse scenario than having a Bush appointee as president.

    JMO

    PC :smokin:

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    #4
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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Quote Originally Posted by PharmaCan
    Here's the problem with Bush and Cheney resigning, as I see it. The same thing pretty much applies to impeachment.

    Cheney would resign first (or in the event of a probable impeachment), then Bush would appoint a new V.P. Once Bush was out of office his new V.P. would become Pres, allowing him to run as an incumbent in the next election. (This time the new pres would wait until after the election to pardon Bush and Cheney, having learned from Ford what not to do.)

    I can't imagine a worse scenario than having a Bush appointee as president.

    JMO

    PC :smokin:
    Voice of reason........welcome to President New Gingrich and V.P. Pat Robertson. OMG!

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    #5
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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    Voice of reason........welcome to President New Gingrich and V.P. Pat Robertson. OMG!

    Have a good one!:s4:
    Nope, you'd have to get used to this: Dear Madam President Pelosi.....~LOL~, then Dear Madam President Clinton.....~LOL~. Your worst nightmare, and BTW causing me not to sleep all that well, But a lot better than I sleep now, with The Bushco nightmare in place.

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    #6
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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Quote Originally Posted by medicinal
    Nope, you'd have to get used to this: Dear Madam President Pelosi......
    LMAO! I KNOW your old enough to remember how the Nixon ordeal turned out.

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    #7
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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Quote Originally Posted by medicinal
    Nope, you'd have to get used to this: Dear Madam President Pelosi.....~LOL~, then Dear Madam President Clinton.....~LOL~. Your worst nightmare, and BTW causing me not to sleep all that well, But a lot better than I sleep now, with The Bushco nightmare in place.
    thanks a lot ! ... :wtf: ... after picturing that, I won't be able to 'get it up' for weeks :error:

  9.     
    #8
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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    ^^ exactly haha thats awful!

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    #9
    Senior Member

    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Very amusing... I guess y'all are to young to remember Viet Nam.... had the same problems there.... politicians trying to run the war and not the "boots on the ground" field commanders.
    You CANNOT send a "message" to zellots, or fannatics.
    They are NOT god fearing people, so the best our soldiers can do is arrange a meeting with their maker.
    FWIW, the soldiers that we have lost over there is only a drop in the bucket compared to the Iraquis that have been killed or maimed by their OWN people, Its also a drop in the bucket compared to the number of people killed for absolutely no reason at all by drunk drivers.
    You can believe what you want to, but you also seem to have forgotten that our military is an ALL VOLENTEER military.
    The draft has not been reinstated since the last time I checked.
    I fully expect the draft to be reinstated, and to preclude any problems with womans equal rights, and lawsuites by the ACLU, women will also be included in the draft.
    Manditory military service works for Israel, and many other countries, it will work here too. There is also something to be said for Judges going back to giving repeat offenders a choice of jail or military service.

    No its not what you want to hear, but reality bites.
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    Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Mississippi Steve
    Very amusing... I guess y'all are to young to remember Viet Nam.... had the same problems there.... politicians trying to run the war and not the "boots on the ground" field commanders.
    You CANNOT send a "message" to zellots, or fannatics.
    They are NOT god fearing people, so the best our soldiers can do is arrange a meeting with their maker.
    FWIW, the soldiers that we have lost over there is only a drop in the bucket compared to the Iraquis that have been killed or maimed by their OWN people, Its also a drop in the bucket compared to the number of people killed for absolutely no reason at all by drunk drivers.
    You can believe what you want to, but you also seem to have forgotten that our military is an ALL VOLENTEER military.
    The draft has not been reinstated since the last time I checked.
    I fully expect the draft to be reinstated, and to preclude any problems with womans equal rights, and lawsuites by the ACLU, women will also be included in the draft.
    Manditory military service works for Israel, and many other countries, it will work here too. There is also something to be said for Judges going back to giving repeat offenders a choice of jail or military service.

    No its not what you want to hear, but reality bites.
    All believers in the draft, must for it to be instated, include a provision that all serving congressmen and members of federal government send their eligible children on the first round of draft picks, and these must be sent to the combat areas first. This would probably limit the amount of wars the politicians would start or keep going. Sort of a do as I do, not a do as I say policy.

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