Im doin these now 18 seeds popped otta 20, but it was all down hill from then on,,Due to havin problems in the small area i was using with heat and humidity i had to move to another location,,,,set the second place up and then had to move again a week later due to people with big mouths.....so there now settled in there 3rd home only to discover spidermite have also moved in,,,,,,,at this point i was well prepared to bin the frickin lot as i wasnt a happy chappy....3 weeks later i now have 8 healthy ones left and not holdin my breath i think the mites gone..at the mo the smallest is 15inchs and the biggest 22inchs and couple are showin sex....im growin in B.A.C soil and im usin ther organic grow with e.c of 1.6 no ph as soil does it for you....theyve had a bloody nightmare start but alls lookin well at the mo...keep me updated on how ya gettin on