Do you support a war against IRAN?

[Darth Vapor]

A species unafraid of extinction is a species destined for just that.

And uh, pray tell, oh wise one... what super-intelligent species out there, is "afraid" of its own extinction? Hmm? Are there rabbits out there, saying, "No, no, no, Bob. We rabbits fear our own extinction, so we'll be fine. Those humans, though? They're screwed, because they don't fear their own extinction, like we do."
What a silly statement you made, that you intended to sound very wise, and ends up doing the complete opposite.


P.S.
I can sum up the situation in the Mid East, in relation to Muslim countries vs. Israel. (By the way, to the genius pacifists on this thread, Iran is not an Arab state. They are Persian.)

1.) We support Israel, because they are the only TRUE democracy, in that armpit of the world. I like how people say that Iran has "elections." Pacifists are soooo cute!
2.) I love how pacifists say, "Peace. Love. No wars. A brotherhood and sisterhood of all people, living in peace." :hippy:
..... Yeah, right. Unless, of course, you're a woman living in a Muslim country, like Iran AND IRAQ(!!!), before we booted that butcher Saddam Hussein out. If you're a woman in those mental case Muslim countries, you get to enjoy all the "peace and love" that a government created rape room provides. Moms and Dads? You get to watch your daughters get raped multiple times, right before your eyes (bonus!), because you happened to disagree with Saddam Hussein, and somebody turned you in. But to pacifists, those women and children, moms and dads don't really count. Just as long as there's no "wars", the slaughter of the innocent is okay by them. Pacifists are just hypocrites and cowards, who hide behind cute little slogans, like "Make love, not war." Puke.

#3, and the most obvious reason Muslim countries are the ones to blame for the unrest in the world.... I'll use a hypothetical.
If all the Muslim countries of the world declared they are laying down their arms, and would not resist an attack made by Israel from this moment on, there would be peace between Israel and all its neighboring Muslim countries, within 24 hours.

If, however, Israel declared that they themselves are laying down all their own weapons, and would not resist any attack made by any Muslim country, Israel would be obliterated, within 24 hours.

[BlueCat00]

Absolutely NOT! ENOUGH FEAR! No to war with IRAN. PERIOD.

Enough Fear

This is a campaign to bring the voices of Iranians and Americans into a discussion that is being dominated by extremists on both sides and bringing us closer to the unthinkable: nuclear war. Our leaders continue to rattle their sabers and spread fear, but we're ready to talk, and if they won't take that first step, we will take it for them. We've had enough. Enough posturing. Enough threats. Enough fear.
The goals of our campaign are to bring Americans and Iranians together to speak to each other, and to speak out together against war.
This website is the first phase of our campaign. I joined and I hope you will to.

[denial102]

Which is why Iran CANNOT be allowed to aquire them.

Have a good one!:s4:

thats not very fair, the government has 1000 of them. Who are we to judge who can and who can't when we commit the attrocity ourselves.

Theres a word for that, its moronic.

Peace,
Denial

[BlueCat00]

Its all a joke anyway...Our present government has made no effort to stop nuclear proliferation in fact it has allowed nuclear secrets to leak out to other nations like Pakistan and put us in MORE danger.

Funny how they are always pointing aggression in the wrong direction. They should have been focusing on Afghanistan when they wasted our tax dollars in Iraq and now they are going after Iran when they should be securing the Nuclear weapons they allowed Pakistan to get.

So I wonder what the real reason is for the focus on Iran?
With Iraq it was control of the oil fields and control of so called US "interests"
There has to be an underlying cause for Iran. I'll have to do some research and see what I can dig up. The first place I always look is arms deals, oil fields and drug deals, all US staples.

[FreshNugz]

I'm pretty sure the "underlying cause" for Iran is that the Shah is no longer in power, and the Ayatollah is crazy...his figurehead is also nuts.
I got your points and stance on Iraq, but this is a way different thing. It's kinda like they cried wolf already, but now it's really needed...people need to learn that Iran and Iraq are different situations, and maybe this time the government actually DOES want to save your ass, just this time it's from some psycho Iranian who doesn't care what anyone thinks. He will do anything....good luck trying to be diplomatic.

[BlueCat00]

I'm pretty sure the "underlying cause" for Iran is that the Shah is no longer in power, and the Ayatollah is crazy...his figurehead is also nuts.
I got your points and stance on Iraq, but this is a way different thing. It's kinda like they cried wolf already, but now it's really needed...people need to learn that Iran and Iraq are different situations, and maybe this time the government actually DOES want to save your ass, just this time it's from some psycho Iranian who doesn't care what anyone thinks. He will do anything....good luck trying to be diplomatic.

I don't agree I have talked personally to young people in Iran they are VERY progressive. They are much more like us than the people in Iraq.
They do not want war they want open communications.

Their leader is an asshole just like our leader is.

Pakistan HAS nuclear weapons and stands a good chance of loosing control of them. They are a much larger threat in my opinion.

[8182KSKUSH]

Just to get this out there first, I am part of the right wing conspiracy, I am in a black helicopter right now!!!

No we shouldn't have a war with Iran. We shouldn't be worried about whether or not they have or are or want to develope nuclear weapons and if they will use them.

They SHOULD be worried about us using nukes on them. Remember we are the only ones that ever have and I think it's high time to do it again. All the lwbwlibs out there should be happy, we won't have a long protracted war, just turn the whole place into a glass bowl. Send some human shields over there first though, any volunteers!:S4::apachecopter::Tomcat:

[BlueCat00]

I really think enough damage has been done on a whole. Yes I would back a defensive need. But to start a war absolutely not. WE (and I mean the government) had been mediling on other countries affairs for the last 115 years. Probably even longer. We have noone to blame but ourselves(the governments we have chosen) for the way we have too living now. I have many views on this, none are great. I think that we need to try and fix a few of these problems, (which we can if we want) I'm not saying lay down and play dead by any means. But things just can't go on the way they are now. we are killing the only place we have to live. I'm not a war monger, nor am I a pasistive. These US of A have come along way and we have a great history. Yes I would love to see Peace!! But not at a cost to our lifestyle. I think there are allot of things we are not remebering. Where we came from, what our forfathers did, and why they did it. I am still proud of this country, not for what we have done recently, but for what we stand for. We are a great country, I know it doesn't seem like it lately, but we are. We need better leadership. Better Press, there are alot of things that we have done for the betterment of the world that we all have to share! That started here in the ole good US of A. I personally would like to see that sort of thing happen more. We have friends from all over the world that we have met here on the internet, and most of them feel the same way we do. "why all the fighting", "why are we at each others throats".....etc etc...... I think if "We The People" acutually had the say we are suppose too have things would be much different in this world we all share. I know there are those out there that would totally disagree, because they are making a killing on the high price of gas now. Well also for other reasons that they themselves make up. Bottom line!!! This is our world, and only we can change it. For the better or the worse. Guess its up too US. I would love to have feed back. If you can't tell I have really been hating whats been going on in the "global community" lately. Thanks for letting go on hehe

I think this is beautiful. I agree 100% :thumbsup:

Sorry it took me so long to reply...I am really busy. Obama's gonna win! Obama's gonna win....Did you hear him say we would take the LEAD in stopping global warming? Such a contrast with a president that wouldn't even sign the Kyoto treaty.

[8182KSKUSH]

I don't agree I have talked personally to young people in Iran they are VERY progressive. They are much more like us than the people in Iraq.

Maybe like you, but I don't think "most" of the general population of America would just let a true facist dictator rule indefinately. Americans don't actually put up with that despite what YOU think, and I am betting that if the Iranians your talking to heard you talk about the United States in the way that you do they would puke. And maybe you could ask them what a real facist dictator is like!:thumbsup:

I don't agree I have talked personally to young people in Iran they are VERY progressive. They are much more like us than the people in Iraq.

Maybe like you, but I don't run around saying lalalallalalalallalalalaa and sucking camel spit eating rocks! Shiiiit! That is just a joke, don't have any siezures folks, sorry to those in advance that are easily offended! Political satire!:thumbsup:

[8182KSKUSH]

Who would sew all the worlds soccer balls if we went to war with Iran.:S2: