Damn in ireland at the end of september, start of october we have more shrooms than you could shake at jus growin!!! So the tradition between me and all my mates is to spend the biggest part of them months fucked!!! (I am in college so its pretty sweet!) We have plain liberty caps here and to get a good trip... for my kat time i had about 200 shrooms in a big ass cup of tea!! That is prob way too much for a first timer... so i would recommend maybe between 30 - 60 dependin on how many you can struggle down....