An alleged "cure" for cancer

[LIP]

dont apricot seeds + apple seeds etc contain cyanide? not cool man lol

Alot of things do. Almond nuts do.

[thcbongman]

Once again, I am sympathetic to your condition. And, I know that chemotherapy does work at various levels of success, and I'm happy that you beat your cancer.
I never said to risk your life, and I wouldn't expect you to. All I'm saying is that there could be, and should be, more testing and study done on alternative methods. As it is now, the American Cancer Society does not even allow it.

I agree with you 100%.

Chemotherapy and surgery got rid of my cancer. However, there's something about the entire industry that sickens me. It seems like they do more to promote their services than actually trying to find a cure.

[Delta9 UK]

However, there's something about the entire industry that sickens me. It seems like they do more to promote their services than actually trying to find a cure.

Indeed, cure cancer = no industry

Worth considering

[FakeBoobsRule]

Vitamin B-17 / Amygdalin / Laetrile

the pharmacudical companies hate me. they would be screwed if people knew they could prevent/treat cancer by eating raw bitter apricot seeds.

oh hah....i was very skeptical at first but, i think i might have to order some raw bitter apricot seeds, and eat them everyday because i dont want cancer haha.

they have to be bitter though because B-17 is bitter and alot of foods that used to be bitter are modified so they arnt...which may be why so many people do not get vitamin b-17, and eventually get cancer. and they have to be raw and not sun dried because sun drying breaks down the b-17

Yes, you solved it, there is a worldwide conspiracy out to get us. You keep promoting laetrile yet you aren't even getting your facts straight. You keep saying bitter apricots, its not bitter apricots. It is bitter almonds or apricots seeds, not bitter apricots. You keep saying bitter this bitter that but you aren't even quoting your own website correctly. "

I am just going to post this abstract on a study on laetrile for starters.

N Engl J Med. 1982 Jan 28;306(4):201-6

A clinical trial of amygdalin (Laetrile) in the treatment of human cancer.

Moertel CG, Fleming TR, Rubin J, Kvols LK, Sarna G, Koch R, Currie VE, Young CW, Jones SE, Davignon JP.



One hundred seventy-eight patients with cancer were treated with amygdalin (Laetrile) plus a "metabolic therapy" program consisting of diet, enzymes, and vitamins. The great majority of these patients were in good general condition before treatment. None was totally disabled or in preterminal condition. One third had not received any previous chemotherapy. The pharmaceutical preparations of amygdalin, the dosage, and the schedule were representative of past and present Laetrile practice. No substantive benefit was observed in terms of cure, improvement or stabilization of cancer, improvement of symptoms related to cancer, or extension of life span. The hazards of amygdalin therapy were evidenced in several patients by symptoms of cyanide toxicity or by blood cyanide levels approaching the lethal range. Patients exposed to this agent should be instructed about the danger of cyanide poisoning, and their blood cyanide levels should be carefully monitored. Amygdalin (Laetrile) is a toxic drug that is not effective as a cancer treatment.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Indeed, cure cancer = no industry

Worth considering

It's also worth considering that all the people involved in cancer research aren't a big faceless entity we can easily refere to as "them". Every researcher out there, working in the labs and even at home to find a cure, are human beings who went into this to try to help people. It's easy to imagine mass cover ups when you refere to the pharamceutical/medical industries as "they", it's not so easy when you realize that there's several companies, tens of thousands of researchers, and they all hold individual thoughts. You can't very shut up each and every one of the people researching this stuff for love of dear profit, somebody is going to flip them the bird and bring that cure to the first company, hell even the first herbalist, who realises they could make a huge profit with a monopoly on the cure for cancer. You simply can't shut them all up. Heck, the DEA still can't shut up Alexander Shulgin!

[Delta9 UK]

It's also worth considering that all the people involved in cancer research aren't a big faceless entity we can easily refere to as "them". Every researcher out there, working in the labs and even at home to find a cure, are human beings who went into this to try to help people. It's easy to imagine mass cover ups when you refere to the pharamceutical/medical industries as "they", it's not so easy when you realize that there's several companies, tens of thousands of researchers, and they all hold individual thoughts. You can't very shut up each and every one of the people researching this stuff for love of dear profit, somebody is going to flip them the bird and bring that cure to the first company, hell even the first herbalist, who realises they could make a huge profit with a monopoly on the cure for cancer. You simply can't shut them all up. Heck, the DEA still can't shut up Alexander Shulgin!

Indeed this is true, I was once one of "them" working as a Medical Microbiologist for a diagnostic company....

For a little bit I even did a stint at Porton Down and CAMR :wtf:

Silence - maybe not, but re-direction! Be sure

This thread does have the air of paranoid conspiracy though - see what you mean, I didn't quite mean my post to be so "Stick it to the Man"

Oh, and cancer sucks.

[ZeldaG.]

Seriously i wouldnt believe half of this bullshit about those cures for cancer,

If i hadnt started reading into the marijuana arguement, and i mean the way they chat pure garbage about cannabis it is totally unimaginable, that is what is so hard to get across to many people that what you hear from the government is 90% fiction, its like most people dont want to look at the truth.

See for some reason i think cnacer has been covered up, big time, in ways i cant even imagine.

(also anyone ever watch stuff about the hiv conspiracies, its those type of things and the whole cannabis ''cover up'' that get me thinking that these magical cures may actually exist,

It's also worth considering that all the people involved in cancer research aren't a big faceless entity we can easily refere to as "them". Every researcher out there, working in the labs and even at home to find a cure, are human beings who went into this to try to help people. It's easy to imagine mass cover ups when you refere to the pharamceutical/medical industries as "they", it's not so easy when you realize that there's several companies, tens of thousands of researchers, and they all hold individual thoughts. You can't very shut up each and every one of the people researching this stuff for love of dear profit, somebody is going to flip them the bird and bring that cure to the first company, hell even the first herbalist, who realises they could make a huge profit with a monopoly on the cure for cancer. You simply can't shut them all up. Heck, the DEA still can't shut up Alexander Shulgin!

See its the people that you cant shut up, that post the internet articles, but in the longrun forums like this call their articles bullshit and even thsoe get shut up sooner or later... :S