Woman sues US prison over son's 86-minute execution

[PHATTY LUMPKINS]

Your right prison is not like it use to be. However they still house some Non Violent offeneders, in Higher level Security Prisons. Due to the Overcrowding issues all accross the U.S. I know from experience. And it most definately sucks I promise you that. As far as the death penalty, Well I have mixed feelings toward's that. What i dont agree with is that, Prisons have become big business Both inside and out. Even private Industries are now going in and getting contracts with the State. In turn they use Inmate Labor at Min wage. Which the state takes half of their pay, It's slave labor. And We the Public dont hear about these programs. I will remind you that these are not work release programs that im referring to either. These Corporations that are taking on these contracts, Have literally hit. (Gold Mines.)They are also taking jobs from Civilians that would normally receive $15.00 to $25.00 per hour for the position's. But they will pay the Inmate $5.15 per hour and work them 60 plus hours a week. Just bitching sorry. Been screwed over by the State before. I know how crooked they really are.:thumbsup:

[PHATTY LUMPKINS]

Any reform in prison, Has to be initiated by the Individual's in question. All their programs are Bullshit. And the only people who get out and stay out are the ones who. Actually chose to do their time and not let their time do them. I did a long stretch and the Recidivism Rate was just amazing. It was like a revolving door for a lot of Dudes. It suck's but Everyone has a choice, and behind every Choice is a Consequence. Be it good or Bad.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Your right prison is not like it use to be. However they still house some Non Violent offeneders, in Higher level Security Prisons. Due to the Overcrowding issues all accross the U.S. I know from experience. And it most definately sucks I promise you that. As far as the death penalty, Well I have mixed feelings toward's that. What i dont agree with is that, Prisons have become big business Both inside and out. Even private Industries are now going in and getting contracts with the State. In turn they use Inmate Labor at Min wage. Which the state takes half of their pay, It's slave labor. And We the Public dont hear about these programs. I will remind you that these are not work release programs that im referring to either. These Corporations that are taking on these contracts, Have literally hit. (Gold Mines.)They are also taking jobs from Civilians that would normally receive $15.00 to $25.00 per hour for the position's. But they will pay the Inmate $5.15 per hour and work them 60 plus hours a week. Just bitching sorry. Been screwed over by the State before. I know how crooked they really are.:thumbsup:

Inmates earning $5.15 an hour, working 60 hours a week, earn over $300 a week. It doesn't sound like much, but if you adjust for room and board, medical costs, no transportation expenses, etc., it's probably equivalent to several times that much - unless, of course, the inmates have to pay these expenses out of their salaries, which I believe is done in some jails.

[TX Girl]

I feel bad for his mother, no one should have to bear the grief of losing a child and knowing they took someone elses life, has to make it that much harder. That is awful. But people make choices and have to accept the consequences, so fuck him and fuck reformation, I have no sympathy for him, his 'inhumane' death was still better than his victim got.

I am glad we have the death penalty, if you can't control yourself enough not to kill anyone then I dont want you around, you are a danger to everyone else around you and no reformation would make me feel safe enough to have you in the same world as my daughter.

It sounds all nice and forgiving to not believe in the dp, but if you ever have the misfortune (and i hope you never do) of having people you love taken away from you by some selfish asshole for no reason you might change your opinion.


OneQuestion- you said
Having to think about what youve done for years in prison is punsihment enough for most people and it doesnt have to lead to death.

I understand what you mean. but I disagree. As someone who misses someone very much,there is no punishment good enough, but it made me feel a tiny bit better when a jury decided that scumbag deserved the worst punishment we can dole out. I would have been ok if he got life, but something about knowing that he didn't fool any of them, and got death, gets to sit and rot in a cell all alone for 23 hrs a day til he gets his easy death makes me feel better for a second every now and then. And my feeling better for even a second is worth more than his whole sorry stupid life, imo.

[SyndicateJuggalos17]

he fucked up that kids life and killed a lady but imagine knowing you're about to die for that long! it would have to be the worst feeling ever and to last that long is just terrible, even if he fucked up in the past dont u think he wished he could go back and not fuck up? one of those times, are u sorry u did it or are u sorry u got caught? he could have felt bad about it ever since he did it then like 20 years later he gets to sit there knowing hes gonna die for over an hour

[onequestion]

OneQuestion- you said
Having to think about what youve done for years in prison is punsihment enough for most people and it doesnt have to lead to death.

I understand what you mean. but I disagree. As someone who misses someone very much,there is no punishment good enough, but it made me feel a tiny bit better when a jury decided that scumbag deserved the worst punishment we can dole out. I would have been ok if he got life, but something about knowing that he didn't fool any of them, and got death, gets to sit and rot in a cell all alone for 23 hrs a day til he gets his easy death makes me feel better for a second every now and then. And my feeling better for even a second is worth more than his whole sorry stupid life, imo.

That is just twisted logic. Your whole pint is basically "The person who killed my loved one should recieve the death penalty because it will make me feel better." That makes you just as much a killer as he was. And i would like to point out that reform is always possible. Yes, some people are just psychopaths and will always wanna kill someone just for fun but some people have resolvable issues. People also get to think about their lives while in prison and turn them around. Just look at immortal technique. He used his time in prison to study history and came out a diferent person. Sure many of his views are wrong but now he's a god person. Also look into some movies such as a clockwork orange and the woodsman to see a bit deeper into the nature of reform. You can also read the book version of a clockwork orange but its a little different.

[SyndicateJuggalos17]

but that is true, how can somebody loose that much control, to drag somebody off and kill her and ya maybe he shoulda been executed but not for 86 mins shit id prolly rather get a guillotine then sit there dying that long

[onequestion]

Vernon God Little would also be a good book to read on the subject. Mostly for the later part of the book.

[Coelho]

Well... i will ask one question for the people that are favourable to death sentences:
If, instead of some unknown person, were your son, or husband, or father that had commited that crime. Would you still wish with the same ardent conviction that the death sentence were applied? Or you would ask for mercy?
Think about it... because every question have two sides...

[Hardcore Newbie]

I don't believe in the death penalty for the simple reason that people can make mistakes. And I'm not talking about offenders, I'm talking about people who convict alleged offenders. I'd hate to lose someone to the death penalty because of a corrupt system.