Woman sues US prison over son's 86-minute execution

[cacayjunasian]

i'm so sick and tired of hearing about the rights of the convicted. that's why america has the worst crime rate...because of sympathizers of killers, rapists, pedaphiles and other low-life scum. these mf-ers should have no rights what-so-ever. whatever happened to victim's rights?

cacayjunasian Reviewed by cacayjunasian on 07-05-2007. Woman sues US prison over son's 86-minute execution WASHINGTON (AFP) - The mother of a US man whose 2006 execution took 86 minutes and involved sticking needles into him 19 times has sued the prison team which oversaw the execution for civil rights violations. On Monday Irma Clark filed suit in the Cincinnati, Ohio, district court, alleging her son Joseph Clark was exposed to "excessive suffering" violating the US constitution when he was put to death on May 2, 2006, at a state prison in Lucasville, Ohio, according to court documents. The Rating: 5

[cacayjunasian]

Wow, you should be ashamed to use that sort of twisted logic on a cannabis board. People who smoke weed know full well that it can land them in jail, but we still choose to do it. Now when one of us gets a sent to prison for a couple of years, does that make it right? No, it doesnt. Same thing with the death penalty. Think aboout it. I think youare letting your emotions get in the way of reason. I'm sure you wouldn't support the death penalty if some twisted fuck didnt kill people you knew.

twisted logic?! this is probably one of the dumbest post i've ever read. talk about twisted logic....
ok, smoking weed is against the law but we do it anyway. why? cuz most of us agree that we're not harming anyone else and quite frankly, we're hardly harming ourselves. so, we take our chances and if we get caught then we know the punishment. do we think it's fair? of course not, but we know full well the ramifications of breaking this law.
what are these killers thinking when they kill other people? well, i know killing people is wrong cuz i'll end their life and hurt the people that love them. and i know i'll either get the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in jail. but hey, since i feel deep down in my heart that the death penalty is wrong, i'm gonna take a few lives anyway. and btw, these people do know what they are doing, being on death row is for premeditated murder.

[cacayjunasian]

I think it would be much worse punishment to let a murderer live in isolation with that shit on their conscience than to kill them. Why should the accused have no rights? Innocent people are mistakenly sent to jail pretty often and what if they caught the death penalty?

ummm, i said the convicted not the accused. big difference. and as a society, we have to believe in our legal system. that's why we have appeals, mistrials, and cases that go to the supreme cort. and we're talking about the death penalty here. you really think innocent people are mistakenly sent to death row pretty often??? c'mon dude, you're undermining judges, the courts and the jury who find these f*ers guilty.

[Coelho]

ummm, i said the convicted not the accused. big difference. and as a society, we have to believe in our legal system. that's why we have appeals, mistrials, and cases that go to the supreme cort. and we're talking about the death penalty here. you really think innocent people are mistakenly sent to death row pretty often??? c'mon dude, you're undermining judges, the courts and the jury who find these f*ers guilty.

Well... just remember that the "important people", judges, and so, are the same who lie about the weed... if they hide the truth even in a "light" subject as weed, if they made a mistake and kill an innocent, do you think anybody will ever know?

[Breukelen advocaat]

I think it would be much worse punishment to let a murderer live in isolation with that shit on their conscience than to kill them. Why should the accused have no rights? Innocent people are mistakenly sent to jail pretty often and what if they caught the death penalty?

The isolation method has been tried, and it failed. Tere is a very good, and underappreciated, treasure in Philadelpha - Eastern State Penitentiary. They were the first to do the whole isolation method, over 150 years ago. It was abandoned. Long ago, and the jail shut down in the early 1970's. I took the tour a couple of years ago while on vacation in Philly.

Murderers don't have a conscience.

As I said before, far less "innocent" people are sent to jail than guilty ones set free.

Below: Eastern State Penitentiary

[onequestion]

twisted logic?! this is probably one of the dumbest post i've ever read. talk about twisted logic....
ok, smoking weed is against the law but we do it anyway. why? cuz most of us agree that we're not harming anyone else and quite frankly, we're hardly harming ourselves. so, we take our chances and if we get caught then we know the punishment. do we think it's fair? of course not, but we know full well the ramifications of breaking this law.
what are these killers thinking when they kill other people? well, i know killing people is wrong cuz i'll end their life and hurt the people that love them. and i know i'll either get the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in jail. but hey, since i feel deep down in my heart that the death penalty is wrong, i'm gonna take a few lives anyway. and btw, these people do know what they are doing, being on death row is for premeditated murder.

You missed the whole pint of my post. The point was just because the law is there, it doesnt mean it is right. I know the two are on completely different levels of seriousness but they are the same. Because someboy who killed somebody else knew about he death penalty when he killed somebody, there is no justification for it. Knowing about somehting doesnt make it right.

[rebgirl420]

Exactly TX Girl, P4b and caca, you guys know your shit. I say skip the waiting period too, a bullet is a whole lot cheaper than housing these people for 30 years before they kill them.

[Zohar]

Wow, you should be ashamed to use that sort of twisted logic on a cannabis board. People who smoke weed know full well that it can land them in jail, but we still choose to do it. Now when one of us gets a sent to prison for a couple of years, does that make it right? No, it doesnt. Same thing with the death penalty. Think aboout it. I think youare letting your emotions get in the way of reason. I'm sure you wouldn't support the death penalty if some twisted fuck didnt kill people you knew.

I would also like to add that sometimes people just dont think about what theyre doing and the people that their crimes affect. Being in the court room with the victim's crying friends and family can often put things into perspective and ensure that what they did would never happen again.

You have to realize that this is a topic that is a question of morals, and I'm talking about personal ones. That is why the answer to this question is there is no wrong belief (well, except perhaps if you think that people should be liberally executed). It seems that in some states the majority of people hold the moral belief that executing someone for a horrendous and violent crime is just and fair, and is a worth punishment. If you really believe that the aforementioned is untrue, why do some states (and the federal government) have the death penalty? Those people feel it is fair and just. If you really dislike the death penalty, I recommend getting involved in politics and fight for your state or perhaps even nationally to end the death penalty. Until that happens, it seems that most of America (or some states, not really sure how many states have one) is happy with the death penalty, just as I am tolerant of your view you must be tolerant of others =).

You are letting your emotions blind you if you really think about it, this is a topic you have to agree to disagree.

[PHATTY LUMPKINS]

psycho4Bud. That's what I was getting at. And it does happen. You put a non violent weed Dude in the joint for 5 to 10 Years and he has to live around the Scumbag's like that, due to the overcrowding problems. So the only place to house some of the lucky one's. Such as myself, was in Max Custody. I did fine but Im a good sized dude. However I know some that didn't fair well in there. And the thing is, They should have never even been there in the first place for weed.:thumbsup:

[PHATTY LUMPKINS]

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