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07-03-2007, 05:07 AM #11
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If God does not exist answer me this
Why do you assume that in the absence of a higher intelligence, the universe would end up not existing instead of existing? What would cause the universe to prefer non-existence to existence?
Originally Posted by AtmanWalter
Quite frankly, I don't know why existence exists, and neither do you. I've thought about the possibilities, but without any good evidence all I can really do is speculate.That is to say why are we here as opposed to not? If you are a beliver of the Big Bang, what caused the point of singularity to 'bang' into the existence we know it as we do.
Let me ask you this. Why does God exist instead of not exist? What caused God to come into existence? Did he just create himself? If God can create himself, why can't a universe create itself? It seems that if anything is going to spontaneously pop into existence, a simple singularity is a lot more easy to believe than an extremely complex intelligent being.
As far as I can tell, the only way intelligence arises in the universe is over millions and millions of years of natural selection creating complex nervous systems. Complex systems like intelligent beings require explanations for how that complexity arose, and with living beings we have an explanation. With God we do not. It seems implausible that an extremely complex intelligence would just pop out of nowhere for no apparent reason.
A few things to consider when thinking about the reason why the universe exists instead of not existing:
1) The total energy in the universe is zero. When you add up all the energy forces in the universe, they exactly cancel each other out, such that we do not need to break the laws of conservation of matter or energy to explain the existence of matter and energy.
2) On the quantum level, pairs of particles are spontaneously creating themselves and then spontaneously annihilating themselves all the time everywhere. In rare cases these pairs of particles can be ripped apart by some force in the split second before they annihilate each other, which is why we know they're there. Is a God required to explain the creation of each and every one of these particles? If not, why is a God required to explain the singularity at the beginning of the universe?
3) If the universe did not exist, we would not be here to ask these questions. The very fact that we are capable of asking questions means that we live in a universe that is capable of evolving complex conscious beings. If there are an infinite number of universes, then logically every possible thing must exist somewhere. Since life forms are possible combinations of particles, they will exist in some subset of those universes, and we inhabit one of them. And really, there is no reason to suppose that having no universes would be a more likely scenario than having an infinite number of universes without a God to create everything.
4) If you don't know the answer to something, for example the question "Why does the universe exist?", you have to admit that you don't know. You can't just make up an answer and say you're right just because nobody else has been able to prove any other theory to be correct. You have to come up with evidence for your God theory, too.
What's your evidence that Moses even existed? I have yet to see any.Now Im not a Christian Catholic are Jew but Id like to quote somthing IV read about Moses. When God spoke to Moses and gave him the 10 comandment Moses askd God what his name is so that he could tell the vilagers or whoever who spoke to him, and God said 'I AM THAT I AM'.
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