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07-07-2007, 04:37 AM #13
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I Believe In Evolution, Except For The Whole Triassic Period
I did not write that. I just copied and pasted it from the Onion. I could never be nearly as funny as they are.
Too mechanical? Why would it being less mechanical be a benefit to the theory? We live in a mechanical universe, where particles follow trajectories through space-time in mathematically precise trajectories. Darwin and subsequent evolutionary biologists have accounted for how patterns of these particles can create complex life-forms over billions of years of natural selection. If you don't like the mechanicity of natural selection, that's too bad, because the world works that way whether you like it or not.
Originally Posted by Staurm
We are the children of mathematics and chemistry and physics. We are the children of the hydrogen and helium present at the beginning of the universe, compressed by stars into heavier elements, strewn throughout the cosmos by supernova explosions, condensed together by the power of gravity and molded into complex life forms by natural selection.
Given billions of years, hydrogen and helium are capable of learning about themselves! The cosmos, following the mechanistic laws of mathematics and logic and physics, has gained the ability to learn about itself through vessels such as ourselves. It is the most amazing scientific discovery of all time, and yet some people find it somehow lacking. They want something more amazing, and for the life of me I cannot imagine anything more amazing or awe-inspiring than the picture of our origins provided by science.
Science and religion are diametrically opposite ways of attempting to learn the truth about the universe. Science attempts to extract truth from the universe through testing and observation, constantly improving its accuracy by throwing out bad ideas and adopting only the ones that can be shown to work, while religion says "This is so, and I'm not changing my mind, because I'm certain this is so, even though I can't prove it to you.""Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."
What makes you think awareness/consciousness is immortal? The brain is the center of consciousness. It creates consciousness. Damage parts of the brain, and you damage your consciousness. We know what parts of the brain correspond to what aspects of consciousness. Damage your visual cortex and you lack the ability to perceive visual stimuli. Damage the Wernicke's area and you'll have severe problems understanding and creating language. And so forth... When you damage all these parts of the brain (i.e. when the brain dies), you lose all aspects of consciousness and awareness.
Originally Posted by xblackdogx
You are temporary, and it's very important to realize that if you don't want to underestimate the value of life. This is not just a place to wipe your feet before you get to wherever you'll be spending the rest of eternity. This is it. This is all you've got. This is your only shot at experiencing anything. So make it good. Stop hoping for pie in the sky when you die and enjoy yourself here, now, before it's too late.
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