income taxes are a fraud.

[Psycho4Bud]

We really didn't have a national debt untill WW2...sure would have been nice if some of our European allies would have paid us off instead of sticking us with the bill.

The worst shape we were in as far as debt was back in the latter 40's though the 50's when the debt was more than our GDP. Right now I think we are at about 74%.

Have a good one!:s4:

[pisshead]

Well, thats the last straw. I'm moving to Canada. I knew we were headed towards fascism but i didnt know we were this close.

Did anybody here move from the US to Canada? I am seriously considering it and I want to know whether the same problems are over there as over here. I dont wanna be in the US of A when we go the way of the Romans because we decided to spend a lot more money than we had. Can't we learn anything from history?

a heavy progressive or graduated income tax is also a pretty "communist" thing...it isn't communist or fascist though...those are just buzz words...

but it is tyrannical...and anti-freedom...

[ncnavguy]

The income tax is a good and nesscary thing, yes it sucks and yes the middle to lower classes pay the bulk of it, but that is simply a function of their are many more poor people than rich, so the aggregate flows that way. The statement about income tax paying the interest for the national debt, is just a circumventing the real issue. The national debt is accrued through running vital services, so paying back the to the national debt is the same as paying for the services that only exist from borrowing the money. People always scream blooody murder about taxes here, but they sure like the fact that there are roads and electricity (highly subsidized), and while most people don't like law enforcement, it sure is nice to know that your neighbor cant just blow your house up without any reprcussions.

[MrNiceGuy420]

yeah...when im old enough, and if america is still as messed up as it is now, im emigrating from here. ill start my own country on a unclaimed island in the pacific....it will be the first libetarian government

[Psycho4Bud]

Personally this is what I'm in favor of.......the more ya make and your spending power grows the more your taxed on the products you buy:

What is the FairTax plan?
The FairTax plan is a comprehensive proposal that replaces all federal income and payroll based taxes with an integrated approach including a progressive national retail sales tax, a prebate to ensure no American pays federal taxes on spending up to the poverty level, dollar-for-dollar federal revenue neutrality, and, through companion legislation, the repeal of the 16th Amendment.

The FairTax Act (HR 25, S 1025) is nonpartisan legislation. It abolishes all federal personal and corporate income taxes, gift, estate, capital gains, alternative minimum, Social Security, Medicare, and self-employment taxes and replaces them with one simple, visible, federal retail sales tax administered primarily by existing state sales tax authorities.

The FairTax taxes us only on what we choose to spend on new goods or services, not on what we earn. The FairTax is a fair, efficient, transparent, and intelligent solution to the frustration and inequity of our current tax system.

The FairTax:

Abolishes the IRS
Closes all loopholes and brings fairness to taxation
Ensures Social Security and Medicare funding

Brings transparency and accountability to tax policy
Allows American products to compete fairly
Reimburses the tax on purchases of basic necessities
Enables retirees to keep their entire pension
Enables workers to keep their entire paycheck
Americans For Fair Taxation: About the Fair Tax

Have a good one!:s4:

[ncnavguy]

yeah...when im old enough, and if america is still as messed up as it is now, im emigrating from here. ill start my own country on a unclaimed island in the pacific....it will be the first libetarian government

Something like this? Oceania -- The Atlantis Project

[MrNiceGuy420]

people forget the government has MANY legal taxes that generate alot of money. however the income tax is illegal and by law you are not required to pay it. if you are poor or an otherwise vulnerable citezin, you will most likey have the IRS come knocking at your door. if you somehow manage to have enough money to get a lawyer after the illegaly seize all your stuff, take it to court and you should win. the IRS doesnt want to go to court with a person who can afford a good lawyer because they know they are wrong.

[onequestion]

How is the film industry in Canada? I want eventually work in the film industry and that would be my only real reason to stay in the US. I live in NYC right now so its real easy to get actors for my short films here while i practice. Are there a lot of actors in Canada?

[Zimzum]

Alex Jones is an anarchist. No matter what it is he will go against the point of view if it is supported by any government. Those FEMA camps are for him and his tinhat brigade when they decide to try and overthrow the government based on crap like this. Instead of watching a 2hr youboob video Read this, straight out of the horses mouth.

"federal reserve system (which is a private bank...no more federal that federal express)"

O rly? Tell me, does the president and Senate pick who runs Fedex as well?

Appointments to the Board
The seven members of the Board of Governors are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate to serve 14-year terms of office. Members may serve only one full term, but a member who has been appointed to complete an unexpired term may be reappointed to a full term. The President designates, and the Senate confirms, two members of the Board to be Chairman and Vice Chairman, for four-year terms.


If you want to go back to gold then fine. But what happens when say China or Russia flood the gold market and crash our economy?

[onequestion]

Why are we talking about alex jones?