income taxes are a fraud.

[PharmaCan]

You are right, I'm sure it was more than just three bankers looking to take over the world. Either way, income tax is still better than window tax!

Daylight robbery

I hate to appear stupid, but what the hell is "window tax"?

[Staurm]

Tax on windows. It's in the link I provided.

[MrNiceGuy420]

.....if only people would watch the video before making judgements....they arnt so much trying to take over the world, its the fact that they control our government with the fact that they control the governments money. it doesnt matter who makes the laws because money will make people do what they want. if you would watch the video, you would see that the services you expect from your government are already paid for by other legal taxes. the income tax you pay is uncontitutional and goes right into the bankers and polititians pockets. you cant watch .6% of the video and get the big picture.

[Psycho4Bud]

Seriously, dont be dumb and watch the first minute of the movie and think you know what it is about, im about half way through it. Though I've already knowon you dont have to pay income taxes, its cool there are more doctumentaries.

I'll ignore that little comment this one time and advise you to read this:
Budget of the United States Government, FY 2008

Go through the ENTIRE thing and tell me where the money would come from.

$647.2 billion for national defense
Defense Analysis Bulletin No. 2 - Experts give poor grades to expected defense budget proposal

U.S. Department of Transportation...$40 Billion
Budget in Brief - FY 2008

Social Security - $544 billion
Medicare - $325 billion
Medicaid - $186 billion
All other mandatory programs - $357 billion. These programs include Food Stamps, Unemployment Compensation, Child Nutrition, Child Tax Credits, Supplemental Security for the blind and disabled, Student Loans, and Retirement / Disability programs for Civil Servants, the Coast Guard and the Military
US Federal Budget - How the FY 2008 Social Security Budget and Medicare Budget Affects the US Economy

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Staurm]

Budget of the United States Government, FY 2008

Go through the ENTIRE thing and tell me where the money would come from.

Without doing that, I'll take a guess and say it comes out of the pockets of working class men..?

Don't know what it's like in the US but the rich get loads of tax breaks over here, leaving the lower earners to pay disproportionatly high shares of the tax revenue.

It's that way because the rich elite have made it that way. Not saying anything about the validity of this conspiracy theory which I admittedly have only watched the first few minutes of (too busy watching Emerdale and Corrie the night, lad)... it's just that is the way things are here.

EDIT: Maybe some if it comes from money that the Bank of America earns from private investment in the UK's public services?

[MrNiceGuy420]

the federal income tax does not pay for anything besides the interest on the national debt. why do we have debt? because every dollar the government borrows from the federal reserve system (which is a private bank...no more federal that federal express) has a certain percent of interest...so the government is constantly paying off thier debt, just to end up with more debt. the government of the united states of america WORKS for the federal reserve system. how do we end the cycle? abolish the federal reserve system and replace it with a federal bank, not private. then there will be no need for the federal income tax or IRS. why hasnt it been stoped? because the bankers pay HUGE amounts of money to polititians to keep doing what they want.

[Psycho4Bud]

and youre talking about misinformation, if we didnt have income taxes, we would still have the money to fund those things,
oh and props to MrNiceGuy

And who has this magic hat?

Tell ya what....I'll move this to politics but it surely isn't meant for the lounge. I even left another one week redirect so hopefully this debate gets a bit more attention.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[pisshead]

YouTube - Ron Paul on Neil Cavuto Show 6-26-07

ron paul owns neil cavuto on the federal reserve and income tax...

people don't even know how the country was funded before the federal reserve and graduated income tax...

there are other legal sources of taxation, but the direct and unapportioned graduated income tax is not one of them...

why on earth people think we need to pay interest to some private bank to print money out of thin air astonishes me...until we get back to real, constitutional money, we're only going to have more debt and more inflation...

[GonzoForever]

Interesting.

[onequestion]

Well, thats the last straw. I'm moving to Canada. I knew we were headed towards fascism but i didnt know we were this close.

Did anybody here move from the US to Canada? I am seriously considering it and I want to know whether the same problems are over there as over here. I dont wanna be in the US of A when we go the way of the Romans because we decided to spend a lot more money than we had. Can't we learn anything from history?