Quote Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
no, what scares us away from socialist ideas is common sense.

time and again our government has proven itself to be totally unresponsive to the needs of the people. big business, special interest groups, international pressures and the constant quest for re-election all come before the welfare of the nation's citizens. our elected officials are forever embroiling us in international conflicts, entangling us in questionable foreign involvements and inflicting nonsensical regulations on us designed to curtail the freedoms of a supposedly free people. all without the slightest concern for the desires of those who elected them and these are the very thieves and swindlers that a socialist system would give even more power to.

unlike the utopian concepts of communism which give the power directly to the people, socialist ideology filters that power through the state and no government has ever willingly given up a single iota of its power. graft, corruption and waste come all too easily under a socialist system and we have enough of those already. next time you decide to preach the joys of socialism, ask yourself how much you can really trust those in power and then ask yourself how much more power you would be willing to hand over to such fools.

i don't preach socialism as a whole, i've thought long and hard about what i want out of my government and i think it's something everyone should do before they gain their right to vote.

I want universal healthcare, a fair taxation system to fund that, and everything else is all in the constitution. And the constitution is anything but socialistic, so does that make me a Socialist? Am I full blown Socialism patriot? i think not.

How much power do American people have any way? It's all in the hands of corporations. And corporations are the hands to the puppets in Washington D.C.

Our government is anything but socialist yet they share power with the corporations and old rich away from the rest of us. So the side your defending isn't any better. Thats why there is moderation, take the best of both worlds, they can all coexist. Being ignorant and totally blowing things off won't get you anywhere, listen to both sides and take each part that can appeal to you and everyone else. Being one sided won't get anyone anywhere.

Our government is unresponsive because it's structured to be unresponsive to the people, especially with the people in there now. What about other countries? they seem very responsive to their people's needs. Moore brings this up, he criticizes Americans for being afraid of the government. It shouldn't be that way, the government should be afraid of us! Why are we letting the government control us when it's WRITTEN on our Constitution, our freaking BIRTH CERTIFICATE as a country that WE THE PEOPLE have given our guidelines to what our government is to provide us. The government today is way out of line. WHAT SAY YE TO THAT?