Quote Originally Posted by rebgirl420
Actually I believe that welfare should be eliminated
Ah yes, let the destitute adopot a life of total poverty and desperation so they can turn to crime and have even more problems for the judicial system and middle-class to deal with.

and the education system is completely screwed up.
Can't disagree with you there. I actually rather like going to a private christian school in grade 7 (albeit I was a closet agnostic), but you have to have some national standards too. I can't say I've seen a reasonably good education system, private or social, that has impressed me.



And socialism doesn't work. People begin to realize that they dont have to work to get the same damn thing that the working people do. Why work when you can get it for free? Not everyone has a good work ethic.
See there you go again taking it to extremes. Nobody here is talking about extreme communist/stalinist socialism, I was talking about moderate socialism in the areas where it's needed. I don't know, have you been told since birth that all socialism means equality for all in every sense? The socialism here in Canada, and even that which exists in America, doesn't make everybody equal. Socialism is responsible for the welfare system, and yes people don't have to work on it, and they're also poor as hell. Nobody living off social supports is "getting the same damn thing" as you put it, that's just rediculous. It's a choice of barely getting by on subsidies, or making something of yourself and living it up in the middle-class life where you can have new cars, big-screen TV's, Ipods, and vacations to the Bahama's.

Honestly, it's no wonder Americans think socialism is such a dirty word, they all think it's COMMUNISM or nothing.