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06-29-2007, 02:57 PM #31
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
I pretty much agree with you, but the problem is: how to affect the needed changes. Greed is rampant, not only in the government, but also the private sector. To eliminate Greed, (I find myself aflicted with it, although to a lessor degree, as I won't do what it takes to get rich.) It would take the second coming, or divine intervention so to speak. The human animal, in general, is a selfish piece of crap that only exists to further it's own interest. There are a few notable exceptions, Jesus comes to mind, Gandi also, but in general, from the earliest days of childhood, well into old age, the selfish crap continues. Maybe in some Tribal cultures I've witnessed on TV there is less of this trait, but in "civilized" cultures it is rampant.
Originally Posted by Sugarblaster
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06-29-2007, 04:39 PM #32
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
Sefless people extend beyound famous figures though medicinal, you just can't meet them all. My grandmother comes to mind, I've never seen somebody as selfless as her, it's amazing how well she does it really.
\"I think your love of the halfling\'s pipeweed has slowed your mind\"
- Saruman
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07-03-2007, 06:17 AM #33
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
I don't want to have a king/queen/monarchy/dictator, but I still think universal healthcare is feasible here. We all know the government regulates many things that they really shouldn't (such as marijuana and internet poker, lol) so I really don't see the concern about having healthcare regulated, and prices fixed. The only people this would hurt are the insurance and pharmaceutical companies.
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07-06-2007, 03:34 AM #34
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
universal healthcare would destroy insurance company selling. pharmaceutical companies could still operate, they just won't make as much money as before, they'll still get paid.
Originally Posted by ceecee79
i was talking to a british immigrant who was in one of my classes at night school. i asked him about the health care system and everything, as i brought this movie up to the table over a meal and beer at applebee's
he said that a lot of rich people usually have private doctors, they don't have to use the government's health care if they don't want to... also that that doctors are not just commited to working for the big cheese and supporting universal healthcare.
that doesn't sound so SOCIALiST now does it? If a doctor wants to make more cash and use his pratice for private business he still can. Moore didn't shed light on this in the film, i can only ask why he didn't cause it kinda helps to fight for his point and waters down the governmental control over health care that people fear so much about.
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07-06-2007, 04:10 AM #35
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
You're quite right Sugarblasted, and France has a two-tier medical system as well. Moore showed some of the best nations for healthcare and made it look like they were 100% socialist, when in fact the worlds best healthcare systems use both government and private sectors. Honestly, everybody in Canada is so terrified of privitized medicine, everybody in America thinks socialized medicine is the work of Satan himself, and so few actually consider giving the people some options.
\"I think your love of the halfling\'s pipeweed has slowed your mind\"
- Saruman
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07-06-2007, 05:48 AM #36
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
Right if you take out the middle man and the profit motive you could potentially have a much more efficient system. We pay so much more in administrative cost than those countries with government funded systems. Heck Medicare is socialized medical care and people are very happy with it and it has very low administrative costs. A combined system would force the private insurers and providers to compete with the government system and most likely lower their costs as well.
Originally Posted by Sugarblaster
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07-07-2007, 05:31 PM #37
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
I just watched this movie and it wasnt funny at all.Why do the americans fear a NHS ?The lady whom need the inhalers was paying $120 and here in uk she would pay £6.50 .my god if you have no insurance you could die.That is not funny and these companies are refusing people medical help for profit.Icant understand why the american people would stand for that ,everyone rich or poor should have free acsess to medical help of thw highest standard.dave
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07-08-2007, 01:49 AM #38
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Icant understand why the american people would stand for that ,everyone rich or poor should have free acsess to medical help of thw highest standard.dave
Me either Dave!
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07-08-2007, 02:28 AM #39
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
In ancient rome the fire dept. was a private company. If your house caught on fire they came out, but only actually put out the fire if you had enough money to pay them. Sounds crazy, huh? But that's how the US health care system works. Your house probably will never catch fire, but you are gonna get sick. In a couple thousand years people will look back and wonder why the richest, most powerful empire the world has ever seen tolerated such a situation.
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07-08-2007, 06:51 PM #40
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"Sicko", Moores best yet.
Can I get an Amen? Question: why are the republicans so afraid of NHC? Is it the fact that most of them are higher up the socioeconomic ladder and have better private health care? Or the fact that they just don't care about anyone but themselves, or both?
Originally Posted by andruejaysin
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