I dunno slip, all I know is that I was happy to get the fudge out of there when I got my cancer. And a bullet is a hell of alot cheaper than housing an inmate :thumbsup: and I know that P4B agrees with me on that one. But whatever, to each their own. And John, I agree the whole system does need redone. The government is so big right now it cant even get out of its own way. We need less government in general.