Just had surgery...wanna smoke...help!

[M80Thrasher]

Hey, last Tuesday I had upper and lower jaw surgery. Its where they pretty much break your jaw and re-align it. Swelling has gone down alot since then but I have like no feeling in my face in alot of parts.

Right now I am taking Tyonel III (which has codein in it) and some cough medicine with a substance similar to vicoden in it. Both those dont make me that loopy or anything. Just kinda relaxed and tired.

but has anyone else smoked after a dental/orthadontic surgery like thiss?


help!

M80Thrasher Reviewed by M80Thrasher on 06-20-2007. Just had surgery...wanna smoke...help! Hey, last Tuesday I had upper and lower jaw surgery. Its where they pretty much break your jaw and re-align it. Swelling has gone down alot since then but I have like no feeling in my face in alot of parts. Right now I am taking Tyonel III (which has codein in it) and some cough medicine with a substance similar to vicoden in it. Both those dont make me that loopy or anything. Just kinda relaxed and tired. but has anyone else smoked after a dental/orthadontic surgery like thiss? help! Rating: 5

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

There are 2 opiates in Vicodin, Thebaine and Codeine. Codeine is the weakest of opiates, and thebaine acts in the same way as both morphine and codein. I can't imagine Thebaine being in a cough medicine though, as Vicodin and Thebaine both are schedule 3 substances. If it's only codein, there's really no sense relating it to Vicodin (A very powerful and adictive opioid analgesic).

I wouldn't recommend smoking while your mouth is healing as it could really mess up the whole healing process. I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable (IE Birdgirl) could tell you more. I just wouldn't recommend it. If you really must indulge, it would be much better to vaporize. If you can't do that, try making a weed smoothy. You'd need some sort of fat or alcohol in it for it to absorb properly though.

[FloydFan]

Hmmm interesting thought. I'm getting my wisdom teeth pulled in a few weeks.

[NothingMoreThenTruth]

There are 2 opiates in Vicodin, Thebaine and Codeine. Codeine is the weakest of opiates, and thebaine acts in the same way as both morphine and codein. I can't imagine Thebaine being in a cough medicine though, as Vicodin and Thebaine both are schedule 3 substances. If it's only codein, there's really no sense relating it to Vicodin (A very powerful and adictive opioid analgesic).

I wouldn't recommend smoking while your mouth is healing as it could really mess up the whole healing process. I'm sure somebody more knowledgeable (IE Birdgirl) could tell you more. I just wouldn't recommend it. If you really must indulge, it would be much better to vaporize. If you can't do that, try making a weed smoothy. You'd need some sort of fat or alcohol in it for it to absorb properly though.

What are you talking about man? Vicodin only has one opiate, hydrocodone, and it is mixed with acetaminophen.

Oh and thebaine is converted into other analgesics, it is not used therapeutically by itself, meaning you won't find medicines of it.

[birdgirl73]

We really need the input here of people like The Smoking Monkey, who has expertise in dentistry, and also persons such as Fake Boobs Rule or Dave Byrd, who can provide expert medical input.

My inclination would be not to smoke till you've healed a bit more and your tissues have begun to mend themselves. But there are people here all the time who smoke anyway, even when it's not the ideal thing. Is your jaw wired together? Aren't you worried about what might happen if you had a strong need to cough afterwards?

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

What are you talking about man? Vicodin only has one opiate, hydrocodone, and it is mixed with acetaminophen.

Oh and thebaine is converted into other analgesics, it is not used therapeutically by itself, meaning you won't find medicines of it.

Hydrocodone is made from thebaine and codeine, I was just breaking it down.

Have a good one :joint1:

[NothingMoreThenTruth]

Oh haha alright.

Cause i was like "what? you don't take thebaine as a medicine!"

But were cool. :thumbsup:

[M80Thrasher]

Is your jaw wired together? Aren't you worried about what might happen if you had a strong need to cough afterwards?

My jaw isnt exactly wired...but rubber banded.

I smoked with a friend once my mom left.

I made a water bottle bowl. And my friend took a toke, and i cleared it. I cant feel my lips so i grasped the bottle with my hand (in like a fist but with an opening to let the smoke through into my mouth...if that makes sense). But ya 2 bowls of some good dro and i cant even describe. My face is already numb but i felt tingling. Its weird cause when they do the surgery they cut nerve endings. But ya it felt tight and relieved me of some discomfort (it usually feels like my face is in a huge vice....it sucks).

Anyways it worked out well but we kept laughing, and smiling hurts since the cuts are made in the front of my mouth where the gum line meets the lip.

but overall it was pretty tight.

and funny enough...my friends mom works at a dentist....she blazes too. So i had her ask her mom. basically it was okay to do as long as i dont suck too hard. I just took the tokes in slow and released slow. But they tokes werent too big...since i cant open my mouth much. But i didnt cough.


It was tight.....nice little experiment,

any questions?

[FakeBoobsRule]

There are 2 opiates in Vicodin, Thebaine and Codeine. Codeine is the weakest of opiates, and thebaine acts in the same way as both morphine and codein. I can't imagine Thebaine being in a cough medicine though, as Vicodin and Thebaine both are schedule 3 substances. If it's only codein, there's really no sense relating it to Vicodin (A very powerful and adictive opioid analgesic).

Hydrocodone is made from thebaine and codeine, I was just breaking it down.

Gandalf, well hydrocodone is used in many cough syrups. It is a cough suppressant in addition to being a pain killer.

Your description of the what is in Vicodin is kind off. You would be hard pressed to find any doctor or nurse or pharmacist say Vicodin contains thebaine and codeine and then correct themselves and say well it is made from thebaine and codeine. If you want to get technical it isn't made from thebaine and codeine. It is made from either catalytic rearrangement of codeine or controlled hydrolysis and oxidation of dihydrothebaine. Nothingmorethentruth really gave a better answer when he simply said it contains hydrocodone and tylenol.

Birdgirl I saw this thread earlier and I wanted to get more info from the OP and then I thought well depending on their diet restricitions they could make a mj drink or food instead of smoking. But then I got busy and didn't post anything. Turns out the OP has it all figured out now.:jointsmile:

[M80Thrasher]

Well I dont think Im gonna smoke again. Kinda tarted me out really bad

I need to somehow make a drink.


What should i do???