Twisting Lettuce and the Wild Bunch !!!

[luckychiken]

Hey everyone..the pictures I promised...and some new problems.. please help

luckychiken Reviewed by luckychiken on 07-07-2007. Twisting Lettuce and the Wild Bunch !!! Hey smoking people !!! This is my third thread about this growth. :thumbsup: First post about the room http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/106360-need-2nd-opinion-2x250hps-x-space-anyone.html#post1298667 Second post about some problems http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/117728-twisting-plant-help.html#post1451025 Well. I always need some comments on the growth. And it is nice to hear opinions about what to do with this babies. This is my first indoor growth soâ?¦ help me Rating: 5

[luckychiken]

just posting nothing so my thread goes back up and someone might clear out my doubts

[stinkyattic]

Cholride AND flouride are both added to tap water- even Bromide I believe has sometimes been used in water treatment applications. Either way, Fl and Cl exist as a gas at standard conditions and will evap off.

[khronik]

Err, there's a big difference between chloride and chlorine. Chlorine is a gas, and you can smell it. It's very dangerous in its gas form, but colloquially "chlorine" usually refers to sodium hypochlorite, which is added to water as a disinfectant.

Chloride on the other hand, is the ion form of chlorine, and you can't smell it. For instance, sodium chloride is common table salt, which you can't smell. It also doesn't evaporate. Fluoride is likewise the ion form of fluorine, and usually exists as sodium fluoride, which is added to drinking water at extremely low levels because of its beneficial effects on tooth formation. Like sodium chloride, sodium fluoride also does not evaporate.

Letting water sit will allow some of the sodium hypochlorite to turn into sodium chloride, which is less harmful to plants, but the chloride and fluoride ions will stay behind in the water.

[stinkyattic]

If I had meant that chloride would evap off, I would have written Cl-, the notation for chloride ION, where Cl is simply the notation for elemental chlorine.
Luckily, I am aware that the negatively-charged chloride ions would have to combine into Cl2, Chlorine GAS, before evaporating off. The presence or absence of other chemicals (including dissolved O2), and pH levels, in the water drives this equilibrium.
Bleach in the water isn't good for plants- most plants are pretty sensitive to sodium. They need a small amount, but too much is deadly.

[khronik]

Well, I was just trying to point out that fluoride (and chloride for that matter) would not evaporate out of water. But if you want to get technical...

Chloride is not added to tap water. Chloride ions will never recombine to form chlorine gas, at least as long as the ionic solution isn't electrolyzed. When water is chlorinated, sodium hypochlorite is added, not chlorine gas. This exists in equilibrium with a small quantity of hypochlorous acid, which smells the same as chlorine gas. This is because chlorine gas turns into hypochlorous acid when it reacts with the linings of our nasal passages. However, chlorine gas is MUCH more dangerous.

Anyway, to the original poster:
Hola! No estoy cierto si es posible a saber el sexo de su planta blueberry. Tiene flores? si no, es posible que tienes una nina. Pero, no se que es la problema de su otre planta.

If my spanish is terrible, I can try again in english.

[stinkyattic]

Chloride ions will never recombine to form chlorine gas, at least as long as the ionic solution isn't electrolyzed
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This is because chlorine gas turns into hypochlorous acid when it reacts with the linings of our nasal passages.

I stand corrected; I am under the impression however that fluctuations in pH also will drive Cl out of solution.

And interesting bit of info: Smell receptors for Cl2.

[luckychiken]

BOYZ:... I can´t understand none of the things u saying.
This is getting tooo technical. I will post up some new pics today So everyone can give me more accurate advice.

Thanks

[stinkyattic]

DUDE. I'm a chick. F'real.

[khronik]

I stand corrected; I am under the impression however that fluctuations in pH also will drive Cl out of solution.

Yeah, acids will make a sodium hypochlorite solution release chlorine gas. Ammonia will do this too. Actually, this can be a problem, if someone is cleaning a nasty stale-urine-filled toilet with bleach. Urea, the main ingredient in urine, decomposes into ammonia, which can release chlorine gas from bleach.

BOYZ:... I can´t understand none of the things u saying.
This is getting tooo technical. I will post up some new pics today So everyone can give me more accurate advice.

Thanks

Actually, all that talk about fluoride and chlorine probably doesn't matter for your purposes.

The tall lanky plant is probably just a sativa phenotype, not necessarily a male. You won't be able to distinguish between the sexes until the plants flower.

On the lighter white widow plant, are the lower leaves yellow? It's hard to tell in the picture, but if so, that would mean you probably have a problem.