yeah, Greenman seems to be a stand-up guy .. I corresponded with him in the past, and I was surprised to discover he really does work at keeping his listings current :thumbsup: ... some parts of his growing sections are pretty questionable, but,I think a lot of that got drug over from old Overgrow articles, or something ... I grew up on Mel Frank and Ed Rosenthal's first book :hippy:, and while it got us up and growing, a LOT of those old practices and beliefs have been discarded over the years ... time marches on ... :smokin: