Quote Originally Posted by afghooey
I have a proposition for you.

Consider this carefully:

If we're not creations of a 'supernatural' God who put us into the universe, it would follow that we naturally came out of the universe, and that we are therefore a natural expression of the universe, correct?

If you agree to that, then consider this:
I don't agree with that. I don't understand why you conclude that if we're not the creation of a supernatural god, then we must have come from outside the universe.

If you follow that line of thought, then you must ask who created the creator, and the creator of the creator, and the creator of the creator of the creator (ad infinitum).