let me just point out that a little bit in 15 year olds, but mostly in the 16-17 years a kid goes through the most "gain" of maturity, dont belive the studies then go to a high school, and look at the difference between the freshman and the sophmore class, and then even moreso both of them and the juniors(for our out of states friends that grades 9 10 11 respectivly) my parents were and still are strict as hell, im almost 18 and if i have a girl in the house its only allowed if someone is home and te door is open and even sitting on the bed is off limits. and my dad was always telling me not to buy anything, didnt matter what it was he wanted me to save for a car or college, and when i was 12 to 15 i hated that, but beings they did what they did, them not being even reasonable sometimes payed off because it made me a better person. now they didnt do that intentionally, my dad still tells me that i should get my mind off of women because there a "waste of money" even though hes gone through probably 6 as he calls it "lady friends" and threw large amounts of money down on them, but he could spare the money so whatever. once u become a parent ur views change, because if u think about it while not having a kid u can kind of grasp a slight amount of it, basically think of your life, do u want your kid going thru what u did, or do u want them doing what things u did. I only know this because an uncle that is more like a friend to me, he has a son, who ive gotten to watch grow up from about 4 till now, and all the shit i did, i dont want some of it happening to him, like getting wasted outta my mind and waking up in my own puke who wants that when u see the innocence of a child, and now that hes getting around 12ish, hes starting to loose that inocense so witnessing what a parent witnesses makes me think about their oppionion.