I don't think "you all don't get it" and "you don't understand" and "you miss the point" is working.... Try something else....

ghost... don't take offense man.. just a friendly discussion... Think about where Kiwi is coming from.. I think she said she had 3 kids.. Imagine trying to f&*% with a bear that had 3 cubs...

I agrree that the "you missed my point" comments are a tad bit vague(ehehhe) and can be seen as condescending... but she cares.. right?

: )