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    #1
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    Need Help with HEAT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zandor
    It changes the Ph of the outside of the life
    WTF does that mean?
    Al B. Fuct Reviewed by Al B. Fuct on . Need Help with HEAT. Where i live is very hot during the summer. I mean really hot, like 120F. for a month hot. When it is this hot, my house is about 85F inside. Now I have a 5'X5' grow room, with a 400 wat HPS and 6 42 wat cfls, and a t-15 tube light, with good venting, but if I am pumping in air at 85F, how do I keep it below 85F with out killing my wallet? I saw a small swamp cooler at Lowes for $250. this would help also with the humidity, it goes at about 30%. Any ideas on a way to keep this room cool with Rating: 5

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    #2
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    Need Help with HEAT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chabnoc
    Lowe's has a real air conditioner, for $89 (5,050 BTU). This is what I just bought today. This unit will cool 150 sq ft room. AC units work a ton better then a swamp cooler.
    BONZA, mate, what a deal!

    That's SO cheap. Send me a couple.

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    #3
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    Need Help with HEAT.

    [quote=Zandor]Funny you say that, PSB is using one in the desert and it cools his room and only raises the humidity to 65% and that's great for plants.

    You bring up a very good point about this whole thing, because the decision to go A/C or Swamp Cooler could somewhat depend on where you live. I live in the dessert and cannot afford to have the air in my growroom any drier than it already is. So I went with a swamp cooler since the A/C will dry the air. Like in the previous post, my humidity was only raised to about 45%.

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    #4
    Senior Member

    Need Help with HEAT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zandor
    Funny you say that, PSB is using one in the desert and it cools his room and only raises the humidity to 65% and that's great for plants.
    Well, if you raise the temp high enough (say, 33-35C), the RH will be damn difficult to keep high as well. Try using a swamp cooler in PROPER temps... and watch the powdery mildew kill the plants in nothing flat.

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    #5
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    Need Help with HEAT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct
    Well, if you raise the temp high enough (say, 33-35C), the RH will be damn difficult to keep high as well. Try using a swamp cooler in PROPER temps... and watch the powdery mildew kill the plants in nothing flat.

    You are starting to sound like my 80 year old father, "I have done it this way for 30 years and its good enough for me then everyone should be doing the same thing"

    Man you need to get up on your modern science and expand your knowledge base.

    Guess you did not read where I said
    "Yes you sure do need to be prepared for mildew or mold but a vapor pot does the trick and even will deal with spider mites too"

    Open your mind up a bit, you can still learn.

    This great plant has so much to offer I would hate to see you leave some quality on the table with every grow. We learn more every year about the science of this plant. Understanding the cycle of life and the small changes that occur with this plant is what make is interesting, fun and exciting.

    Just be a little more open minded and you just might learn something around here. Lots of people have value to add to the discussion and they do make valid points too.

    I get that you are old school and I can respect that. But there is real science now. Where before when you and I started growing it was one hippie talking to another about how they grew. Hell the plants are even different now, then when you and I started growing. So to keep up with the plants take advantage of science. I know you think that nutrients and specific formulas are "Magic sauce" but in truth it's science.

    Just water is not enough for the top shelf high quality that medical users need today.

    It may take a village to raise a child but it takes science to raise high quality medical grade marijuana. Robert Clark has taught us that with his thesis paper.

    Happy growing man I bet you still grow good quality weed and you are happy with your yield and your quality too. Props dude

    Just listen to what science has taught is and just maybe you can learn something too you may not have know before, and that is a good thing.

    Peace dude, :hippy:

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    Need Help with HEAT.

    Zandor, if you had spent HALF the time critiquing the science as you just did criticising what you don't know about me, you'd have saved the world by now. You've managed to call me a luddite in various forms and assigned beliefs to me that I simply don't have.

    When you get done with explaining 'changes the Ph of the outside of the life' I'll take your salesman-driven pseudo-science and wives' tales on board, in spades- but not before.

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    #7
    Senior Member

    Need Help with HEAT.

    I have read a few times that is is better to keep the Humidity lower if possible, not only for the mold, but it helps the plant to use up the nutrients and such, instead of getting moisture from the air. I do not know this for sure, but this is what I have read. I did read that 40% was a nice number. 30-35% worked pretty good my first hydro grow. I got 1.5 OZ of some very nice bud per plant. I am sure you can grow them at 80% humidity also, if you want to fight the mold and low yield.

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    #8
    Senior Member

    Need Help with HEAT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Al B. Fuct
    Zandor, if you had spent HALF the time critiquing the science as you just did criticising what you don't know about me, you'd have saved the world by now. You've managed to call me a luddite in various forms and assigned beliefs to me that I simply don't have.

    When you get done with explaining 'changes the Ph of the outside of the life' I'll take your salesman-driven pseudo-science and wives' tales on board, in spades- but not before.

    Well a full link showing where I posted that would make it easer to reply.

    But in truth I am getting sick of your punk ass. I don't see you helping anyone but trying to pump up your ego around here lately.

    Your games are starting to be annoying but if I miss-typed something I will correct it. But as far as I am concerned you can take your swag weed and go else where. You're taking the whole forum down a notch with your attitude and personal attacks lately.

    I suggest you stop them or find a new place to hang out.

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    #9
    Senior Member

    Need Help with HEAT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chabnoc
    I have read a few times that is is better to keep the Humidity lower if possible, not only for the mold, but it helps the plant to use up the nutrients and such, instead of getting moisture from the air. I do not know this for sure, but this is what I have read. I did read that 40% was a nice number. 30-35% worked pretty good my first hydro grow. I got 1.5 OZ of some very nice bud per plant. I am sure you can grow them at 80% humidity also, if you want to fight the mold and low yield.


    You call this low yield? Your ounce & 1/2 was a low yield. Most common growers can yield 4 ounces from one plant and 6-8 Oz is just above average. Your 1 1/2 oz is considered low for all the money spent and time taken chabnoc. You can do better, I know you can. Anybody can improve their yield once you understand what the plants needs are and how much they change.

    That was a 3.5 pound plant!

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    #10
    Senior Member

    Need Help with HEAT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zandor
    Well a full link showing where I posted that would make it easer to reply.

    But in truth I am getting sick of your punk ass. I don't see you helping anyone but trying to pump up your ego around here lately.
    Gee, sorry to hear it... but you're the only person here with that opinion.

    ...and you're the only person who does personal attacks on users. IF you're a moderator here, Admin has not made a good choice.


    Your games are starting to be annoying but if I miss-typed something I will correct it. But as far as I am concerned you can take your swag weed and go else where. You're taking the whole forum down a notch with your attitude and personal attacks lately.

    I suggest you stop them or find a new place to hang out.
    hahahahhaahha

    I don't spoze you know Karl Rove, do ya? You both live in oppositeworld.

    If I'm such a big problem, I suppose you'll find a way to ban me.

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