Quote Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!!

This is a hypothetical situation that I would like you to consider -

You build a toy remote-control boat. You make it beautiful, absolutely gorgeous, with it's own sails, decorations, engine and rotor etc.. You're proud of your work. You admire it, and then you set it down on a river. You turn it on, hit the 'Forward' button on the remote-control, and the boats rotor kicks in, and away it goes, straight down the river. But then, as you follow it, walking along the bank of the river, you see a waterfall, 100 metres ahead. The boat is heading straight for it - it will surely be destroyed. Now, you've created this beautiful thing, and you're extremely proud of it. Surely the best course of action would be either to turn the boat around, using the remote-control, or to simply cut the engine. Any sane, rational human-being would agree with me. You know that the boat cannot see the waterfall coming - it cannot forsee its own demise - but you can, and yet you choose to do nothing. Nada. Not a thing. You created this thing, you set it on its way, and you had the power to stop it from destruction, but instead, you decide to sit back and watch it be destroyed.

Another hypothetical scenario:

You buy a kitten from a pet-store. It's 2 months old. You nurse it, nurture it, mother it. Eventually, the kitten, as it matures, starts to think of you as its parent. It loves you, it listens to you, and it obeys you. As it experiments by moving around the house, hiding in different places, playing with different objects, you tell it which things it should and shouldnt do, and reward or punish it accordingly. The kitten is only now a couple of months old, and is not big enough to jump out of the window, onto the motorway below.

Then suddely one day, you realize it is big enough to jump on to the windowledge, and out of the window. When you get home from work one day, you find the cat at the edge of the window, about to drop down, so you grab it, tell it not to do that again. The next day, you get home from work, and the cat is on the windowledge again. But this time, you dont grab it; you dont yell at it; you dont stop it. In your opinion, you've told the cat that jumping out of the window is wrong, and that it shouldnt be done, so now, you believe, if the cat jumps out of the window and dies, then it is nobodies fault but its own - once you told the cat not to do it once, it shouldnt have done it again, its not your responsibility.

If you think about it, what makes the relationship between God and us any different to the hypothetical relationship between you and the boat, or you and the cat? If a loving parent tells you not to do something dangerous or wrong, it will still try and save you from that danger, or stop you from doing that thing, no matter how many times you try.. Laugh if you want, but im stoned, and those hypothetical thingys made sense to me lol

sorry ghost but i gotta give you props for that one! i disgree with your point but hey
Euphoric Reviewed by Euphoric on . To all the geeks. Id like to start this thread with a hearty laugh. Anyone whose been here lately knows why. I would also like to apologize for larry being a bigot not all people who dont believe in god are so sad. Just as some catholics embarrass all others, non-believers have the same problem. And i would especially like to apologize for the word geek if i was going to insult some one i would have at least used a word that wasnt invented by a 4th grade school girl. Anyway enough of that. The reason i have Rating: 5