Quote Originally Posted by Coelho
Well, old Gandalf... i understand how this experiences can be terrifying... i never did another psychedelics else weed (yet), but when i mixed weed with some dissociative (wont enter in detail here), i had some ego-loss experiences... they really were frightening, and i only repeated them over and over because my curiosity was greater than my fear... and then, slowly the fear lessened...



Thats interesting... i remember once or twice, when i was a child and had a fever, of having a very weird feeling... it started with a strangeness in the perception (i cant describe it well), then there was a kind of fear... anyway, even if i couldnt explain the feeling, i remembered it very well.
Then, some times when i stayed some time without smoking and smoked again, during the height of the high i could feel this same "fear"... and it was the same "fear" i used to feel when trying to astral project.
And it makes me wonder about your nightmares... i have read some shamanic/occult stuff, and i think your nightmares could be somewhat more than just nightmares, but i prefer not to enter in detail here... it would only frighten you more...

Anyway... there is a nice book called "The psychedelic experience", which makes a remarkable parallel between psychedelic experiences induced by hallucinogens and deep meditative states described in the The Tibetan Book of the Dead... there is a lot of similarities between what is described there and what you described, so i think you could get a lot of useful information there.

Erowid Online Books : "The Psychedelic Experience" by Leary, Metzner, & Alpert

So, good luck, and if you reach the nirvana, tell us how it is! :thumbsup:

Wow, thanks for that link I will definately check it out! Psychadelic experiences do seem very similar to meditation at times, but only when you're guiding the experience toward a certain perception. Some can make the mistake of believing their meditaitons should be nothing but trying to attain the most abstract psychadelic states, and this is not so. Those states have their place, but to do them exclusively can actually be dangerous for your psyche; I've actually heard that some people have developed psychological problems from meditation alone because they went full-on for the psychadelic experience. But enough of my forboading.

I'd be interested to know about this "fear" you experienced during your fevers though, as it can take many forms. One time (when I was about 14) I had one of those episodes, and was at the tail end of it, I got hit by an overwhelming sense of guilt. I knew I had nothing to feel guilty about, it was a 100% chemical response, like the giult-centers of my brain were just being overstimulated. Absolutely nothing in my thought process indicated something to feel guilty about. So I'm wondering if fever-states or being too hot in general can randomly trigger certain emotions as well, in your case fear. Was the fear in response to anything in particular?


LOL I'm sure we've lost all the other posters here, who are now who are thinking "god damn hippies":jointsmile:
Gandalf_The_Grey Reviewed by Gandalf_The_Grey on . I have the weirdest mental condition in the world I'm not really expecting anybody to be able to answer this, because it's just downright odd. I've studied psychology (moderately) and know plenty, and I've never heard anything about this. BUT, on the odd chance somebody does know what I'm talking about, or maybe experienced it themselves, I'd love to hear about it. So I'm currently 22, and this thing came about when I was 13. The first time happened when I got a fever, and has happened every time I got a fever since. It also happens if Rating: 5