Oh sweet Jebus, we're having a total communication breakdown here. I wasn't contradicting myself, I'm explaining that YES billionfold is right that children don't question what they're fed, but they DO question when they get older and start learning about how the world really works. Maybe I've misinterpreted some of what you said, but you've misinterpreted almost everything I've said as well especially on the main points. It's a complicated issue with a lot of subject matter, and it gets awkward debating someone on an issue we disagree on, yet at the same time completely agree on in our view of the whole religious issue. This obviously isn't going anywhere fast so we'll leave it at that.