Knowledge desert, thirsty brain

[chiqo76]

Pills also make the companies that make them extremely rich even with all the side effects.......

[chiqo76]

oh good poem by the way...

[wayoftheleaf]

penicillin wouldn't save me lol. deathly allergic.

[Oneironaut]

Yes, that's one of the caveats of the medical profession. Different bodies react differently to different drugs.

And yeah, the pharmacological companies are making a lot of money on pills, but pills are important for combating diseases. They're not allowed to market pills unless they can actually scientifically show that they actually work for what they're advertising. I don't see how anybody with even a rudimentary understanding of medical science can honestly deny that isolated drug compounds in pill form can have profound health benefits when prescribed wisely. But that's the problem, too many people are scientifically illiterate. They couldn't tell a neutrino from a neutron star.

Why doesn't science fascinate people as much as it fascinates me?

[wayoftheleaf]

^^some pharmaseutical companies have been selling medications that turned out before distrubuting to the masses were harmful, to third world countries.


I want an unbiased scientific research on marijuana that won't be disputed.

Give me that and i'll be happy to never talk about it's benifits and harmfull side effects again

and what language is your sig in right now? i want to translate it and read it.

[chiqo76]

... I agree that some medication is needed, like anitviral medication for AIDs patients, but these medications that are scientifically shown to have profound health benefits are approved by the same FDA that approved Phenphen, Vioxx, Celebrex, Bextra, and Thimerosal...

I try to stick with cannabis as my cureall, but if im in a hospital bed dying and the doc says i need some pills, of course Im gonna take them....

.... I used to be one of those "ignorance is bliss" people untill I smoked and realized that everything I was told as a kid about MJ was complete BS, not its got me reading about other stuff... well the MJ and the fact I dont have cable....

[Oneironaut]

^^some pharmaseutical companies have been selling medications that turned out before distrubuting to the masses were harmful, to third world countries.

Lots of pharmaceutical companies have been selling medications that turned out to be beneficial to people of all nations. Yeah, sometimes they screw up, but that's because they're human and they make mistakes. When you look at the big picture, pharmaceutical companies have saved many many many many many more lives than they have inadvertently killed. Sometimes we accidentally send poisoned food to starving third-world nations. Does that mean we should stop sending food altogether? No, because we're saving many more lives than we're destroying.

And I'm not really one to stand up to the corporate fat cats. I'm a freaking communist. But I attribute the good of this situation to the progress of medical scientists who have spent their entire careers finding out how certain chemicals interact with the human bodies to be able to get the right chemicals to the right people. These people genuinely want to save human lives; this is why we have medical science to begin with. It's unfortunate that these drugs have to be distributed to the public in the current way via huge pharmaceutical companies, but at least the drugs are based in science and they're saving and improving lives.

I will not deny that the capitalistic lust for money has driven some pharmaceutical companies to do some obscene things, but for the most part they don't get too far with that. It's not like they're out to make people ill. They're taking scientifically approved drugs and marketing them to the public; they have the FDA to keep them in check and make sure they don't step outside the lines.

I want an unbiased scientific research on marijuana that won't be disputed.

Give me that and i'll be happy to never talk about it's benifits and harmfull side effects again

I want that too. I want cannabis to be publicly recognized as a drug with scientifically proven benefits, so that doctors may prescribe it to the public. Yeah, it would be a bummer to see the pharmaceutical companies take hold in the cannabis industry, but if that's what it takes to save and improve lives in the meantime, then I'm all for it.

[wayoftheleaf]

I meant they sold it to third world countries KNOWING it was unsafe. I read a report on it somewhere, if i find it i'll post it.

[Oneironaut]

I can believe that. Companies do all sorts of unethical shit for profits. That means we need to change our economic structures, not medical science.

[wayoftheleaf]

I wasn't saying to change our medical science. I just think the world is fucked up in general.

I don't really believe in any government, and anarchism doesn't suit me either. Something like (please forgive this oxy-moron) An anarchy with minor laws, to protect a person's individual freedom.

Not saying that, that type of government(or pretty much lack there of) would make things like that happen less often, but it would make a crime such as that heinous to the utmost extent of the word. And the punishment swift and severe.

We shouldn't give up on furthering our knowledge, but we should find a better way of protecting a person's *individual* rights to live and have utter freedom upon his or her own self. Any physical damage to a person.*i don't mean mental damage, that would have to be accepted unless it was harassment* is harming a person, thereby limiting their freedom in some way by use of corporal punishment.

That is just the way I see it though.