Bill W

[Breukelen advocaat]

AA just doesn't work for the vast majority of people. Plus, it's a cult.

YouTube - Top Ten Reasons To Run From Alcoholics Anonymous

[the yeag]

AA just doesn't work for the vast majority of people. Plus, it's a cult.

YouTube - Top Ten Reasons To Run From Alcoholics Anonymous

That was BULLSHIT 100% BULLSHIT.....The program has changed over the years so much. Back in the 30's it was a staunch program to say the least. No one ever asks you for money...and they won't take any. religion is not necessary...you don't need to believe in god. you only need to believe that someone or something is more powerful than yourself. no one forces you to come or calls you. the door is always open people do not judge you their. no one will tell tell you to dump your spouse or to abstain from dating for a year... counseling and medicine are not frowned upon , they are necessary for some people.oh my god I thought you were intelligent Broken record......i mean breaklen advacotte but now i realize you are just a whiny ass beet-nick who thinks his shit does not stink......go choke on your white zinfandel.:jointsmile: I feel sorry for ya bud.

[Breukelen advocaat]

It's only my opinion, so why the personal attack? I didn't attack anybody. I thought that this sort of thing wasn't allowed here anymore. Why do you think that you're so special? Having a hissy fit just because you don't agree with someone isn't very mature.

Don't blame me for pointing out what others have reported about twelve step programs. The 12 step method is a waste of time for most people. Some people believe that it's worse than the addiction itself. The three videos from P&T, on You Tube, give a very good overview of this cult, including comments from current and former members.

YouTube - P&T Bullshit - 12 Step Programs (1/3)

YouTube - P&T Bullshit - 12 Step Programs (2/3)

YouTube - P&T Bullshit - 12 Step Programs (3/3)

Twelve Step programs are useless,and most drug and alcohol programs use them. We need methods that work.[/QUOTE]

[the yeag]

Don't blame me for pointing out what others have reported about twelve step programs. The 12 step method is a waste of time for most people. Some people believe that it's worse than the addiction itself. The three videos from P&T, on You Tube, give a very good overview of this cult, including comments from current and former members.

YouTube - P&T Bullshit - 12 Step Programs (1/3)

YouTube - P&T Bullshit - 12 Step Programs (2/3)

YouTube - P&T Bullshit - 12 Step Programs (3/3)

Twelve Step programs are useless,and most drug and alcohol programs use them. We need methods that work.

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Ok your right i'm wrong...now piss off. I hope your obtuse thinking takes you far in life. I hope for your families sake that you never have any problems with alcohol....think about it man we all could become alcoholics with the way society as a whole drinks...i ask you this what if your child died....what if you lost your parents suddenly together ....your wife.....your mobility? You cannot answer that until it happens....good luck on your own:jointsmile: you will need it.

[Psycho4Bud]

Yeag, this is all I'm going to say. Good luck to ya brother! There are other issues in this thread that have NOTHING to do with you but are spilling on your ass. Real nice for fellow members to be so encouraging......I'd expect a hell of alot more!

Whether it's this program or another or another.......take the kind words of a few and use it for encouragement and the negativity of others for your source of drive to prove the "people" wrong.

Have a good one!:jointsmile: