Well, one of these days you or someone else you know may need him. He's a good one to know about, whether you yourself need a program or not. There are lots of folks who do, and part of the tradition--in fact it's the 12th step--is to help carry the message to others who might need it, that is, people who're struggling. Even folks who aren't close personal acquaintances of Bill W. can do that if they have an understanding of the program. That's part of what motivates my explanation here. In some small way, this thread might be helpful for others on these boards, and I don't refer to the people on this thread, who could benefit from a Step 12 reach-out. They're out there.