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06-11-2007, 06:23 AM #1Senior Member
Bill W
Originally Posted by surreys princess
if i may quote.... "addiction is a disease from which there in no known cure"....
What is the source of this pronouncement?
it is classified as a disease because it changes the brain chemistryBreukelen advocaat Reviewed by Breukelen advocaat on . Bill W I met him a month ago... anyone else. :thumbsup: Rating: 5
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06-11-2007, 06:38 AM #2Senior Member
Bill W
that pronouncement is from the anonymous groups....
and yes, if you get brain damage, that can be classified as a disease...the definition of disease is noted here...
disease - definition of disease in the Medical dictionary - by the Free Online Medical Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
to each their own though....
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06-11-2007, 06:48 AM #3Senior Member
Bill W
Yeah I dont like the whole god thing involved in AA. But I had to take AA when I was locked up, (Everyone had too), AND I DONT EVEN DRINK!, but our guy would come in and he started to come in drunk and he'd rub the other girls backs and shit. And he would try to cover up the smell of the booze with mints...yeah..
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06-11-2007, 07:05 AM #4Senior Member
Bill W
Originally Posted by surreys princess
But the fact is that AA is useless for the vast majority of people.
We need addiction treatments that work - not superstitious 12 step cults that have about as much scientific method in their approach as astrology, voodoo, witchcraft or tarot-card reading.
It's a disgrace that these programs constitute 97% of treatment options in America. There are "known cures" - but the 12 Step "anonymous groups" don't want them to take over a share of their monopoly in the addiction market. They've been singing the same song since the 1930's, and have no intention of changing at all.
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06-11-2007, 07:08 AM #5Senior Member
Bill W
I dunno, I always like the phrase: you made the bed that you have to lay in.
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06-12-2007, 08:14 PM #6Member
Bill W
yeag, don't let the bastards get you down.
I really don't think your gonna get much support on a cannabis board.
work your program.
get healthy .
it does work for some.
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06-12-2007, 08:49 PM #7Senior Member
Bill W
There are always going to be naysayers, and we've got a habitual one here in this thread.
Like you said, The Yeag. It works if you work it.[SIZE=\"4\"]\"That best portion of a good man\'s life: his little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and love.\"[/SIZE]
[align=center]William Wordsworth, English poet (1770 - 1850)[/align]
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06-12-2007, 08:59 PM #8Senior Member
Bill W
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
) technically, i'm sure a psychiatrist or psychologist would insist i become friends with him... becuase i fit the 'profile' but i'm also alot diffrent from most of his friends o.0 i'll explain how if you need/want me to tho...
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06-12-2007, 09:10 PM #9Senior Member
Bill W
Good lookin out Yeag ,
Been there , done that . Haven't been to a meeting in 6 yrs.
It takes a big person to go on their own and has a hell of a lot better chance of working when it's not court ordered or forced on someone by family or piers .
I went and admitted myself to outpatient / group and was only 1 of 2 ppl. that wern't forced into it . Act. wanted my life back / control . You -n- your girl know part of what I've been through , I guess it could be considered my 12th. step . I've been as close as any human being has ever been to hell itself . Im blessed my shortconmings wern't a byproduct of addiction .
You got someone that cares about you and Im sure that will now hopefuly influence some of your future decisions .
God Bless Bro.
Crispi :jointsmile:
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06-12-2007, 09:12 PM #10Senior Member
Bill W
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