Michael Moore's $1,000,000,000,000 target.

[Psycho4Bud]

The reality is it looks a heck of a lot like an bureaucratic vendetta against someone who's been a thorn in the side of Washington, D.C. and the Bush administration for six years. Fred Thompson is milking this not-yet-news item for everything it's worth so he has a right-wing sound byte with which to kick-start his campaign.

Once again...keeping it real.........

"This office has no record that a specific license was issued authorizing you to engage in travel-related transactions involving Cuba," Dale Thompson, OFAC chief of general investigations and field operations, wrote in the letter to Moore.

IF he applied and it was still in limbo why should this CRIME hold a political boundry preventing Mr. Thompson from doing his job?

Moore's attorneys had not yet determined how to respond.

IF it were as easy as journalistic rights OR that he actually obtained permission then why would his lawyers be so slow to respond? Should be a pretty cut and dry response I'd think.

Have a good one!:s4:

[rebgirl420]

"The law demands and requires that a corporation like a health insurance company maximize the profits for the shareholders, and if they donâ??t do that, theyâ??re violating the law. â?¦ If they are required by law to make a profit, and the only way they can make a profit is by denying claims or cutting people off of their insurance or never taking them on in the first place, then thatâ??s not good for us."

LMAO! And what law is this again? I'd rather feed the health care system with thousands than his lieing fat ass the price of admission to the movie.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Yes sir, socialized health care may have a few good points but to me the bad points out weigh its soooo much. Thank you but I dont wanna have to wait weeks or months to get into my cancer checkups.

[birdgirl73]

Too many folks already have their minds made up about so-called "socialized" health care, when no one really knows what it would entail because we don't have any such system yet. When we do, it'll have to be implemented gradually.

Chances are here that for people who're already insured, it'll be very much like it is right now. As is the case in countries with fully socialized medicine, the wealthy and highest-earning types will still likely have better care and more options. That's not fair, but it's reality. If you don't have to wait for your checkups now, Reb, you can't automatically assume that because people in other countries have to wait that it'll be the same way here if our system changes. Here it'll have to be a combination public-private system, which isn't how it works in other countries.

The important thing--and this is the most important message from Moore's film, in my opinion--is that by implementing some sort of system to cover the health-care-less and woefully underinsured, we'll be doing something that benefits our country as a whole and not just a chosen few. It's shifting to a "we" mentality from an "I" mentality. It's like the idea upon which education access is based on in this country: everyone benefits from an educated society, not just the people who have kids. The same would be true of health care. And the benefits would extend worldwide in the case of health care for all.

[rebgirl420]

1. I have a reallllly bad gut feeling it will end up like those european countries. And why risk that? Its not like if shit goes down we say, "oops, didn't work", theyll just throw more and more money at it like they did with welfare

2. and the public education system is a wreck

3. and I hat the idea of a one world ANYTHING.

[Triple-P]

they could do alot...they could make a chevy that would last 50 years, they could make a cure for cancer, aids and all that good stuff...shit they could probably even make a rolling paper that burns perfectly everytime and never
canoes

politicans are fuckin roaches...and not the good kinda roach


wheres north americas equivelent to che and fidel???

[rebgirl420]

USA equivilent to Fidel? Just look at all the liberals :thumbsup:

[birdgirl73]

Well, don't go on your gut just yet on point 1. Nothing's even in the works yet. It'll no doubt have some negative aspects. But if you're informed, you know the negative aspects of our current medical system are myriad now. We who believe in cannabis need to be better aware of that than anyone else, particularly considering how hard Big Pharma, the profit-mongers that they are, have--and will continue to--fight the legalization of an immensely beneficial plant.

On 2, I didn't say anything about public education. I said education. And while our system has its faults, it's still better than nothing, and all education, public or private, benefits society as a whole. You'll be learning that as a future teacher. You also need to know there are plenty of very effective public school systems in this country. There are wrecks, certainly. There are wrecks in the highest-dollar private educational systems, too. But there are also successes. I don't know about you, but I'm the product of a successful public education. And I know a heck of a lot of other people who are, too, including nearly the entirety of my med school class.

On point 3, you and the other "nationalists" who haven't yet seen that this world is increasingly inextricably linked, whether you want to admit it or not, can hang onto the notion that keeping borders and ideas and geographies the way they've been previous decades and centuries is the way to continue. The business world has long since overcome that notion, or global business wouldn't be able to operate as successfully as it does. The fear of loss of identity with geographic area unifications is a foundless one. England and other European countries haven't lost their unique identities or laws with the EU. With more maturity, lots more travel, and further education, I suspect you'll start to see this. It's too early for you to be able to do that quite yet.

[rebgirl420]

1. i think its a damnded if you do and damnded if you don't.

2. Of course theres good points on both. And really, what we both know is that a good ammount of the time its the student who is the problem.

3. I'll never agree on that. I believe that a one world anything just leads to socialism. I want to be able to leave somehwere when the country begins to go down the tube. I like being an American. I dont want to a citizen of another country AT ALL. And so many other countries are becoming socialist messes. I want NO part of that.

[birdgirl73]

Rest assured, sweet Reb, you'll still be an American no matter what happens. So will I. No other country could handle us!! No other country would even want to try . . . .

I'm outta here. Everyone sleep tight.

[rebgirl420]

haha night birgirl