Article on the effects of THC vs. CBD

[Staurm]

Check out this latest barnacle - christ it was only yesterday they were banging on about how smoking cannabis gives you emphysemia by the time your 35 or something...

They finally found evidence that cannabis rots your brain!

BBC NEWS | Health | Cannabis 'disrupts brain centre'

"They then recorded reduced activity in an area of the brain which keeps inappropriate thoughts at bay."

What you mean a part of our brain is there to STOP us from thinking?

"THC levels are thought to have doubled in the most popular type of street cannabis - possibly at the expense of potentially beneficial ingredients. "

Where are these crazy people buying their hash, I wanna know! THC, CBD I don't care so long as it makes normality go away.

Anyway, there I was ready to tear this article apart, and it turns out they might have stumbled across something interesting and worth knowing.

I'm generally a hash smoker right, I save the hard stuff the skunk for odd occassions, parties, it's more of a buzz high, a few beers and you don't notice the inappropriate thoughts hehehe or at least that's what i tell my victims... I don't go in for this pill popping, I just want a beer and a pipe and I'm flying high. I've thought for a while that the reason people are going crazy, or getting physical illnesses from cannabis is a result of, amongst other contributary factors, the poor quality of the government commission. Prohibition is at fault.

"What you mean a part of our brain is there to STOP us from thinking?"

You mean the government actually do live inside my mind, aargh.:stoned:

Anyway I don't know what's this THC CBD thing, is that to do with indica and sativa?

Staurm Reviewed by Staurm on 06-04-2007. Article on the effects of THC vs. CBD Check out this latest barnacle - christ it was only yesterday they were banging on about how smoking cannabis gives you emphysemia by the time your 35 or something... They finally found evidence that cannabis rots your brain! BBC NEWS | Health | Cannabis 'disrupts brain centre' "They then recorded reduced activity in an area of the brain which keeps inappropriate thoughts at bay." What you mean a part of our brain is there to STOP us from thinking? Rating: 5

[ThePeacockNamethTom]

Okay, that is entirely fictional. I personally do not feel that Cannabis causes in sort of mental-instability or dysfunction, but that under the influence of a subtle, yet powerful psychedelic, which marijuana is, you are capable of coercing your mind to believe anything - even that you are mentally insane. The side-effects of depersonalization and derealization accumulated with that, and likely used by the user as evidence of his own slipping mental-state, do not help either.

Here is an older, but contradictory article:
www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/geninfo/Reuters_062703.pdf

And the part about the brain having a part of it, used solely to keep out inappropriate thoughts and behaviour, and the fact that pot inhibits its function - well, I'd call that "mind-expanding" and obviously a side-effect of "mind-manifesting," or psychedelic drug.

[birdgirl73]

Did y'all even read the article about the testing? Apparently not. Those studies were not done by the government. The studies were done in academic medical institutions, and what they found were very real results about how THC (it wasn't whole weed, it was isolated THC, one of the two psychoactive compounds in cannabis along with cannabadiol, or CBD) provoked delusional/schizophrenic activity in a number of the test subjects.

I've said it before and will say it again. Cannabis and its active compounds aren't for everyone. It's a drug, and not all drugs agree with all psyches. Every time a study or an article such as this comes out, we get the nay-sayer stoner types here who don't believe it, but the research was solid and well-done. And it proved what a lot of researchers have known for a long time--that the compounds in weed can provoke delusional and/or paranoid reactions in some folks. That doesn't mean it happens to everyone. It doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad substance. But for some people it is. Just because it doesn't have that particular effect on you personally doesn't negate the test results. In the test subjects they studied, those results were scary enough that they didn't continue the studies.

I need to save this since it keeps needing to be repeated. Anyone who thinks cannabis is all good is just as wrong as anyone who thinks it's all bad. It's like any drug with side effects that vary from person to person and situation to situation. Ultimately, to do justice to the substance and its advocacy, we have to open our minds up and look at both the good and the bad. That means being able to read reports such as the one above with an open mind instead of an outright dismissal.

[ThePeacockNamethTom]

Did y'all even read the article about the testing? Apparently not. Those studies were not done by the government. The studies were done in academic medical institutions, and what they found were very real results about how THC (it wasn't whole weed, it was isolated THC, one of the two psychoactive compounds in cannabis along with cannabadiol, or CBD) provoked delusional/schizophrenic activity in a number of the test subjects.

University of California, San Diego: External Relations: News & Information: News Releases : Health

These are the first Federal-approved studies of Cannabis and its affects on humans since the 1970's, when major narcotics bills lumped in Marijuana and had it banned. Sure, these studies were done by the government, but they were supervised, funded and done with permission of the Federal Government of the United States of America. Also, your belief that if the studies were done by the government would give some inherent-credibility is misguided - the government is not exactly impartial. It has motives and reasons beyond those told to you in the news for its actions and stances.

[birdgirl73]

Not sure you're arguing on the appropriate point, Tom. I wasn't taking issue with your link. I didn't even read it, to be honest. I know about the UC San Diego studies. That wasn't what the original link that this thread referred to. It was the BBC story in the original thread. That was what I was responding to.

By the way, cannabis was rescheduled in the 70s, if that's what you mean by lumped with other narcotics, but it was banned long before that--in 1937.

[ThePeacockNamethTom]

Yes, the Marihuana Act (yes, it is spelled like that - weird). I thought you were talking about my link, and discrediting its accuracy. Really, I'd say I went a bit over-board defending it, but that's because I have this large binder of drug-related articles - and well, to be honest, that article is one of my pride'n'joys. I guess I thought you were after my baby, in other words.

[birdgirl73]

Yes, I'm an article-keeper, too. Several of us here are. Someday they're going to come in handy!! Abstracts about medical studies are great things to keep, too. The only problem is that an abstract is only a brief summary, and anyone with any sense wants to see the actual data and studies behind those. Still, they good places to start in persuading uninformed doctors, legislators, and people who need to be cannabis-educated. Keep up the good work!

[onequickmove]

Did y'all even read the article about the testing? Apparently not. Those studies were not done by the government. The studies were done in academic medical institutions, and what they found were very real results about how THC (it wasn't whole weed, it was isolated THC, one of the two psychoactive compounds in cannabis along with cannabadiol, or CBD) provoked delusional/schizophrenic activity in a number of the test subjects.

I've said it before and will say it again. Cannabis and its active compounds aren't for everyone. It's a drug, and not all drugs agree with all psyches. Every time a study or an article such as this comes out, we get the nay-sayer stoner types here who don't believe it, but the research was solid and well-done. And it proved what a lot of researchers have known for a long time--that the compounds in weed can provoke delusional and/or paranoid reactions in some folks. That doesn't mean it happens to everyone. It doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad substance. But for some people it is. Just because it doesn't have that particular effect on you personally doesn't negate the test results. In the test subjects they studied, those results were scary enough that they didn't continue the studies.

I need to save this since it keeps needing to be repeated. Anyone who thinks cannabis is all good is just as wrong as anyone who thinks it's all bad. It's like any drug with side effects that vary from person to person and situation to situation. Ultimately, to do justice to the substance and its advocacy, we have to open our minds up and look at both the good and the bad. That means being able to read reports such as the one above with an open mind instead of an outright dismissal.

yes, i've noticed you keep having to make this point over and over; glad that there's a voice of reason here; agree completely

[ThePeacockNamethTom]

Yes, I'm an article-keeper, too. Several of us here are. Someday they're going to come in handy!! Abstracts about medical studies are great things to keep, too. The only problem is that an abstract is only a brief summary, and anyone with any sense wants to see the actual data and studies behind those. Still, they good places to start in persuading uninformed doctors, legislators, and people who need to be cannabis-educated. Keep up the good work!

I go to college, so I have access from my IP address to a large database of databases for various articles - of all sorts and topics. Don't worry, for a lot of those articles, it seems past the abstract is jargon and gibberish.

[birdgirl73]

I go to medical school. We have a database of research that pretty well reaches around the world, which is neat, and if we can't find it on our own, one of the librarians can. So I know what you mean about jargon and gibberish. But that's the stuff that the scientists want to look at.