Humidity

[home.grower]

Hi home.grower

What do you mean by ammendments I've not come across the term B4

Ammendments are additives, sorry. Like Fulvic and Humic Acid or CarboLoad for example. The stuff that you'd add on top of nutes like beneficial microbes...

home.grower Reviewed by home.grower on 06-13-2007. Humidity Hi just how important is humidity to the end result. we are struggling to keep humidity in the grow tent up its normaly about 50% but I assume this is too low. Could this be the reason our crop weight has been so bad lately. The tent is 6X4X6 ft and the temprature is around 75 degrees. we have 5 plants in at the moment Any advice welcome NCM Rating: 5

[Al B. Fuct]

I tend not to believe in too many magic sauces. One should be able to get well developed, solid buds with nothing more than nutes from a reputable maker.

Sure, some additives are helpful, but proper conditions in the grow op are 90% of what makes good buds.

I run my flowering area at 24-25C @ 30-50%.

[Zandor]

are the grow reports avaiable in text format for reading? if not is it a consideration for you?

The Grow Report is from a series of books I wrote over the past 10 years to share my 30+ years of experience. Problems with greedy publishers and lawyers making threats pissed me off so I an doing the show to give away my books. At this time I do not plan to publish anything but the detailed blue prints of different systems with how to build then instructions. I just have not had the time to get back to finishing converting my hand drawings to auto-CAD drawings for greater detail. I hope to get back to that project over the next few months. I have said before "End of the year" but that was the past 2 years. All the legal crap is behind me now but time has slipped by and other projects (like my new house) have taken front seat.

Thanks for asking. :jointsmile:

I tend not to believe in too many magic sauces. One should be able to get well developed, solid buds with nothing more than nutes from a reputable maker.

Sure, some additives are helpful, but proper conditions in the grow op are 90% of what makes good buds.

I run my flowering area at 24-25C @ 30-50%.

Well boosters/additives or what ever you want call them is the difference between 4 ounces per plant (average yield for most growers) and 6 to 10 ounces from the same plant. It's about giving the plant the exact amount they need for that cycle of life. You can't do that with just an NPK formula. The plants needs do change with every cycle of life change (IE, aging each week) so to keep up certain minerals can be applied at certain times to produce larger yields. Sweet & Carb Load can pack on weight, silica will increase the uptake of nutrients and make the stock and stems more mailable. Northern Lights Fat Flower will promote flower sooner then not using anything by 10 day's.

Just as CO² will increase your over all yield by 20% or more if you use it right. Commercial flushing products will help to removed minerals, salts and other nutrients combinations from the plant at the end as well. They do force the plant to use up stored minerals in the fan leafs and speed up the drying and curing process time by weeks and improve the over all taste as well.

They do have their roll to play in a top shelf quality grow.

They are not required and the plant can grow in the crack of a side walk with nothing but water too.

If you compare the quality the difference it will be night and day. One is top shelf and the other is ditch weed. Both get you high but you will use 10-1 of the ditch weed to achieve the same effect vs. the top shelf strain.

[Al B. Fuct]

If you compare the quality the difference it will be night and day. One is top shelf and the other is ditch weed. Both get you high but you will use 10-1 of the ditch weed to achieve the same effect vs. the top shelf strain.

Hang on, are you saying that without magic sauces, all you get is ditchweed?:wtf:

[Zandor]

Hang on, are you saying that without magic sauces, all you get is ditchweed?:wtf:

No not at all, well sort of not at all. Plus they are not "Magic" in fact it's science.

As long as you control the environment and use proper light, ventilation, and some proper base NPK you will grow decent weed but you will not get everything the plant can offer or even the yield that you should get for the money and effort you are putting in.

Why would you spend all the time, money and effort and NOT product the very best you can?

The difference of not using a proper nutrients formula of some sort is about an average yield of 2-4 ounces for your efforts and 4-6 ounces for the same time spend, and effort. You will spend about 50 bucks more on nutrients give or take what you choose, but for the extra few bucks you can end up with close to twice the yield and if you pay close attention to the environment you can get even more.

I would be amiss in my duties if I did not point out for you and others that to get, great quality and above average yield you need proper nutrition. I would not like a new medical grower to think for their first time that water is all they need.

No offense meant toward you at all dude, just keeping the facts straight and dialog open is all :hippy:

[LOC NAR on probation]

Danm, If I can't get your books Zandor then I have to keep records myself. I have seen the difference from a few additives from my start. Can't wait to get back in it. Copy and paste, my hard drive will handle it. i just have to sort it out. Thanks Z. Glad to see you back more and sorry about latewood. I'm going to go see him as soon as they turn me loose soon.

[Al B. Fuct]

No not at all, well sort of not at all. Plus they are not "Magic" in fact it's science.

Sure, there's some sauces which have some science behind them- but plenty more which are "magic."

Because of the 'underground' nature of this game and the amount of myth and rumour which surrounds it, quite a lot of things get sold which frankly can't be proven to work. Disreputable makers and even some local hydro shops mix up all manner of stuff which does sell- and do produce very profitable margins- but won't do much for plants.

With all due respect, I've been growing just as long as you have and I have seen plenty of magic sauces come and go. I've even done a few weeks here and there filling in for a very large hydroponics wholesaler. People will buy just about anything if it's packaged attractively and has a few buzzwords in the product name. Don't get me started on stuff like "Carbo-Load." Marathon runners might 'carbo-load' by eating a bunch of pasta before a race but carbohydrates (including molasses) are meaningless to multicellular plants. Good for feeding microbes in soil, useless in standard hydroponics as there shouldn't be any other organisms in the media to feed, certainly no microbes.

I'd advise anyone to start with the basics- nutes and some pathogen control like H202- and then add things that come recommended- one by one- and evaluate them for themselves. Mind you, even that isn't a proof that something is actually useful; real scientific proof comes from double-blind comparisons, not very easy to do in this situation.

Proper grow room conditions are 90% of growing good dope. Once that's squared away, then try tweaking nutes and supplements.

My list of known-useful supplements is very short. A calcium & magnesium additive (using Cal-Mag now but have in the past used Epsom Salts for the Mg) and a phosphorus additive (Canna's PK-13-14) in wk3.

[Zandor]

Sorry dude you have been burned so much by bad shops and products.

I'm my opinion with out proper additives at the proper time in the plants cycle of life and that includes proper environment control through out the whole grow to match the plant cycle you can yield 2 pounds or more per plant.

True 90% or more will only get 6-10 ounces per-plant at best but with everything in the right time and portions you can achieve pounds per plant.

Here is my proof.

But props to you dude and happy growing man. I appreciate your help on the forums too with everyone. :thumbsup: