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    #21
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    loose change

    I work with a 50 something old lady from Whales that has lived in the US for 15 years and is still denied her green card, try telling me that's justified when the Mexicans can come here and mooch off our social security and everything else. The Mexicans are solely the reason the social security fund is expected to run dry by 2019. We've been paying into it our whole natural working lives, but may not even see one penny of it. Try telling me thats fair.

    Apparently the "land of opportunity" means an opportunity to work for a few years without paying taxes, (or very little) and then bring you're whole family over to do the same. Ya, the land of opportunity all right who wouldn't exploit that?

    for the record, I am not racist unlike a lot of other people posting but this is what is going on right now in the land of the free.

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    #22
    Senior Member

    loose change

    Drummer - Race has nothing to do with the illegal immigration issue. In any event, what race is a criminal illegal alien?

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    #23
    Senior Member

    loose change

    Quote Originally Posted by deftdrummer
    I work with a 50 something old lady from Whales that has lived in the US for 15 years and is still denied her green card, try telling me that's justified when the Mexicans can come here and mooch off our social security and everything else. The Mexicans are solely the reason the social security fund is expected to run dry by 2019. We've been paying into it our whole natural working lives, but may not even see one penny of it. Try telling me thats fair.
    The main reason social security is slated to run dry is that baby boomers are retiring. That has nothing to do with mexicans, and anyway, illegal aliens cannot collect benefits, ever, until they become legal. However, if they have children while in the US, their children are US citizens who then CAN collect benefits, and this is where the cost comes from. Anyway, illegal immigration only costs the federal government about 10 billion dollars a year, compared to the war in Iraq, which is up to what? a half a trillion by now? They do help the economy too, although I don't have the exact figures on that.

    Apparently the "land of opportunity" means an opportunity to work for a few years without paying taxes, (or very little) and then bring you're whole family over to do the same. Ya, the land of opportunity all right who wouldn't exploit that?

    for the record, I am not racist unlike a lot of other people posting but this is what is going on right now in the land of the free.
    It's not that one-sided, but I will admit there is a problem.

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    #24
    Senior Member

    loose change

    Illegal aliens cost the state of California alone in excess of $10 Billion per year.

    And, by the way, their children are not U.S. citizens. They like to think they are, but that's not what the constitution says. Treating anchor brats like citizens is a beaurocratic snafu, but one which will soon be rectified.

    In any event, The very first act these invaders commit when they illegaly enter America is a crime. Their crimes continue while they acquire fake identity documents, use false names, drive with neither license nor insurance. These people have no respect for our laws and some people, like you, seem to think that it's a good idea to allow tens of millions of people who have no respect for our laws into this country. That's just plain ignorant. Do you think you will change the stripes on the tiger by waving an amnesty wand?

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    #25
    Senior Member

    loose change

    I think this is closer to the truth. At least I hope.

    Quote Originally Posted by khronik
    You have to admit, there is a lot more freedom of information in the US than in Nazi Germany. Anyway, it surprises me that anyone would believe a video with heaps and heaps of proven misinformation, rather than the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    I will give you, the Bush administration very well may have ignored CIA intelligence regarding a terrorist strike, figuring that a terrorist strike might work to his advantage if it did happen. But that's a long way from saying the government planned the whole thing out.
    Any posts made by me are purely fictional in nature and by no means is anything I say to be taken seriously. I do not grow or condone the growing of anything not legal. Any and all pictures I post are pictures widley available on the internet and any discussions I am involved in are purely hypothetical or are commentary in nature and should not constitute advice or be considered advice to assist in activities that are deemed illegal

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    #27
    Senior Member

    loose change

    Quote Originally Posted by pwn3dy0
    Our government is criminal and has been hijacked, and yes they did orchestrate 9/11. I am not even going to debate 9/11 itself. It is so obvious it is an inside job it isn't even funny. Buildings don't collapse at freefall speed from small fires
    you are an idiot. the reason that these videos succeed is because people like you who are ignorent believe them. the planes hit the world trade center at over 500 MPH. The blast blew the fireproofing off the steel. 2000 gallons of jet fuel ignited. inside the inferno, the temperatures were over 2000 F, slowly bending the steel. eventually the outer coloms of the world trade center could not support the bending steel and they collaped, one floor crashed on another, crashed onto another, and etc.

    with EVERY situation there will be a conspiracy. Ever see farenheit 911? well watch farenhype 911. it proves that michael moore altered what ppl said.

    undecided voters are the dumbest people on the planet. you need to break down every issue until it is spelled out. They draw stupid conclusions, and THEY are what is wrong with our countrys voting system.
    Any posts made by this user are a lie, and a joke. Nothing should be taken seriously. Thanks!



    :rastabanna:

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    #28
    Senior Member

    loose change

    Quote Originally Posted by Fissle
    you are an idiot. the reason that these videos succeed is because people like you who are ignorent believe them. the planes hit the world trade center at over 500 MPH. The blast blew the fireproofing off the steel. 2000 gallons of jet fuel ignited. inside the inferno, the temperatures were over 2000 F, slowly bending the steel. eventually the outer coloms of the world trade center could not support the bending steel and they collaped, one floor crashed on another, crashed onto another, and etc.
    I worked in lower NYC for over 20 years, and was there on 9/11, a few blocks from the WTC. After the second plane hit, I headed home and met an architect on the subway. He told me that the buildings would collapse, straight down, because they were designed to react that way if the structures were severely compromised for any reason. Because of the heat, he had no doubt that they would collapse. When I got home and turned on the TV, exactly what he predicted happened.

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    #29
    Senior Member

    loose change

    i dont think everything on loose change is true, however, and this is how i feel about most conspiracies, just because parts of it are proven wrong don't write the entire thing off and call anyone who believes it an idiot. it makes some very legitimate points, and so that i think are a stretch and are wrong. from the evidence they have i dont think it is enough to say definitely what happened that day. if you say oh bin laden did it anyone who says otherwise is just a stupid foil hat nut, i think you are being very narrow minded. if you think bush did it i think you are just wrong. if you think the circumstances are very shady then i agree. i will say if you are totally convinced everything in loose change is true at least do some outside research before you go acting like an expert on it.

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