"The news and "some" in here just LOVE to post up on the number of U.S. soldiers dead but how many of the insurgent/terrorists are visiting with Allah now?"

I nearly said those numbers are irellevant, that was the fool-arse liberal beeyatch coming out. Close call! :thumbsup:

The thing is, while trying my best to refrain from prioritising figures, the US toll is more of a factor than the Iraqi toll in such an argument. Of course your wasting a fuckload of them everyday, how could you not? That much is certain. In fact, your so ahead of yourself, your taking out the civilians too, good job there Uncle Sam :wtf:. It comes down to the lost cause of the strategy. Sure, you can kill 'em, kill hundreds every day, but your still so, so far away from making the difference your supposed to be making. It's not a video game, these people have values and virtues of their own, and they won't die with them. That's not how shit works, and never has. There is no supreme commander or dictator to take down, just loads of sweaty, hateful psychotics following an idealism that is HUGE and neverending. When it is clear that die hard, air-punching political sheep have their mind made up that the psychotic approach is most effective, the best you can do is show them the harm it does to your own side. There has been no development in Bush's cause since day one, what else is there to do but remind you that he is doing more harm than good to his own people, more than any filthy, penniless insurgent nutjob could.