Plant Oding on nutrients!

[Nocturnal Stoner]

basically I posted here about exposing roots to light and stinky told me cause of overdose of fish blood and bone mix. so Ive flushed it about 6 times and its still withering away and affecting the new sets of leaves.

Is there anything else i can do to help the plant?

Also if a plant is slightly overdosed on nutrients, will it stress it into becoming a bangkok chick boy?

Cheers

Nocturnal Stoner Reviewed by Nocturnal Stoner on 05-30-2007. Plant Oding on nutrients! basically I posted here about exposing roots to light and stinky told me cause of overdose of fish blood and bone mix. so Ive flushed it about 6 times and its still withering away and affecting the new sets of leaves. Is there anything else i can do to help the plant? Also if a plant is slightly overdosed on nutrients, will it stress it into becoming a bangkok chick boy? Cheers Rating: 5

[stinkyattic]

Stress of any sort could potentially lead to herms... Do you have pics of the damage? Let's figure out where you're at. You could be in dire need of micronutrients, which the fish and bone meals don't supply a complete set, but by using too much, you didn't allow yourself 'room' to add enough liquid fert to supplement them... I would personally use a foliar spray right away, like spray n gro or the micro part of the GH 3part (not sure if it is meant for that but I've used it successfully to treat micro def after a SERIOUS soil problem).

[Nocturnal Stoner]

I've got some pics now

the healthiest plant out of the 2 has slight nute burn as I was saying

Hope the pics help you to diagnose the plants properly

[stinkyattic]

Thanks for pics that is VERY VERY much better.
Okay... the almost white strips at the top- looks a little sun-burned actually.
Teh necrotic brown areas... This is not good- Calcium def possibly but also a possibility of ROT.
My next question is, at any point in the plant's life, did you pot it up so that the level of the soil surface was ABOVE the original location of the first leaves (cotyledons)? I ask this because of a couple things... one, in one of the whole-plant shots it kind of looks like that big side branch is really close to the ground and if you have lower leaves and lost them early in the plant's life, you probably would not have a big branch that low, and two, the pic of your hand holding the newest growth tip, for the fresh growth to be necrotic like that, I fear that you may have rot in the roots or even the stem, if as I suspect part of it is underground.
Serenade that you can get at walmart you can use as a soil drench and it is safe to use on food crops, it's just a beneficial bacteria that kills fungus.
In the meantime, a foliar feed that has a good amount of Ca and K in it, and don't worry about the 'burn' because that looks like a very bad Ca lock-out rather than a fert burn in the usual sense, and make sure your soil pH is correct.
Nice variegated schefflera BTW.

[Nocturnal Stoner]

ok thanks alot for the advice. If it is root rot I don't have a walmart in England, is the any household products which will do the job or can I just ask a garden store of any products to prevent root rot?

I did pot it so it was taller than the first set of oval leaves cause they died off early and few sets after that. How much of a problem is that?

Also I have a miracle grow blue powder which has micro nutrients like calcium, but I hear it has loads of salts which fuck up the plant, should I foliar feed them using miracle grow or use something else?

Thanks alot

[Nocturnal Stoner]

oh shit my miracle grow has no calcium, but are there any household products which I can use which do have calcium?

[stinkyattic]

Actually miracle grow is not half bad as a foliar feed... the salts are worst when allowed to build up in the soil. On the leaves that is not an issue at all.
Fungicide, anything that contains Bacillus subtilis... garden shops SHOULD have something.
Potting deeper than the 1st set of leaves IS a problem. If that were my plant I'd be digging down to see what sort of shape the stem was in below the soil surface, and if there were no roots, actually removing some of the top of the soil. I'm not going to suggest you do that for fear of damage to the plant, but curiosity ALWAYS kills this cat, lol, I guess it's up to you...

Okay... extreme first aid for a plant that I suspect has rot under the soil surface... disclaimer!!!! This is how I do things and may be totally wrong!!! I have had this happen a few times and DID lose one, that was rotted through the main stem, but saved others, it even worked on my Christmas cactus that got rot.
Repot- the soil it goes into should be EVEN LIGHTER than you would normally use, like if your normal mix has 1/3 perlite, go up to 1/2 or more perlite. You want the soil to be able to dry out FAST. Pot up in a larger pot. In fact, look up the term 'elevated transplanting' this is when you repot, but don't settle the root ball so the soil surface is even wiht the new soil, but a couple inches higher, for airflow around the whole thing.
Drench- use the bacillus subtilis as a soil drench. This is where your nice light soil is great, it will flow out fast.
Keep out of strong sunlight- the roots are not functioning at full efficiency so the plant can't uptake water as fast as it needs to if it is in strong light.

[Nocturnal Stoner]

ok cool thanks for all your help on the plants, I'll have a look this weekend for some of that fungi killer shit in my price range if not i'll just wait and see.

Also, my good plant. Are there any problems with that? I have noticed the leaf tips are curling downwards is this ok?

There is also obvious nute burn on my good plant, will this eventually stop or should I keep flushing?

Also, in future how would I prevent root rot from happening? I have flushed out the 2 plants about 6 times in 3 days, Did this contribute to root rot?

Thanks again