Should the U.S. have began started the current war in Iraq

[Euphoric]

and no fool, I have watched a thousands docos from left and right winged based reporters and they all say and show the same thing. The diff. is im in a country who doesnt try and controle what I think and say...

sure they do!

[3s BEL]

Only one war was acceptable and America didn't bail us out
Since I live in Belgium I know quite a bit about both WWs, for those who don't know, belgium is just at the north of France,at the South of The Netherlands, Germany is our Eastern neighbour and to get in the UK I just have to cross the english channel, you all know the battle of the bulge? it was here in Belgium been there, seen that. My grandfather was an active member of the resistance and I have a the disfunctioned mausser rifle he gave me (He took it from a german he killed). The town I live in is not far from a German POW camp where many got killed, just to give you an idea: you read in history books, I've seen the places, heard the stories at first hand. Belgium has been occupied for 5 years by German ruling, not fun, und nein, Wir würden nicht Deutsches sprechen. Weil Hitler verrückt war, and do all native americans speak only English? Or do some of them also speak their tongue? and if I remember my history book correct:
Final victory came for Russia when Soviet soldiers hoisted the red flag over the Berlin Reichstag in April 1945.
And for what did you fight? Did the soldiers that fought here, when they came here, knew what they were fighting for? Not many... afterwards when they saw the deathcamps came the horror.... This is the only war that was just, that in terms of humanity you could speak of good vs evil. and after the war to end all wars? let's talk about now and leave all the dumb shit US goverment did past 50 years. WHat are you doing in Iraq? offering peace? giving Iraq to the Iraqees? What about Darfour, the genocide that's going on there? btw I hope bush sended Osama a X-mass card, oops, can't do, he still doesn't know where he is, Osama is the dude after 9/11 Right? (This is just to make clear that 9/11 doesn't justify Iraq war, Osama isn't Sadam). Oh, was Sadam making America scared with weapons of mass destruction? Now Sadam should be in court. And I thought Presumed Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Were are the weapons that the reports said there would be? Objection, those reports were false!
Let's be honnest even if ya could make believe a person that you're doing it for freedom for all the world, isn't it strange you only go to countries were you can get an economical advantage?
Sorry to offend anybody let me just remind myself and others that we don't send the soldiers, the politics do, we just smoke em.
BTW, soldiers, listen to that old hippie song by Donovan, The Universal Soldier.

[BuD MaN]

everyone go out and hire fahrenheit 911 is yous are open to truth

[NowhereMan]

everyone go out and hire fahrenheit 911 is yous are open to truth

thats right
go out give fat ass mr Moore some money cuase he knows the REAL truth about everything there ever was,

hire fahrenheit 911 is yous are open to truth
whoohoo man "he sure does"
" is u 4 he do dat "
siad some retarted dude on crack who agree's with you
"hims- b-da-jebus"
R weet weet warb jebus
whoobah diebah onda coss 4 manba kindba

oh yea,im luaghing my ass off about this geniius right now

i still beeda gibbons ooba fanger

(i still be giving you the finger)

(ok dumass think dialect or look up the word if you aint learned that one in 7th grade yet)


re exits cuase it its smells like bullshit too bad in here

[Sedater18]

You can't count out America in WWII. Russia kept the germans occupied on the eastern front and America allowed for allied victories in the west. Remember Japan? We did most of the fighting over in the pacific with Australia at our side. Do you think that if Japan had it's full fleet and military that they would have surrendered to Russia alone? Don't forget that it was the American lend-lease that gave Russia the weaponry that it needed to overcome the German Wehrmacht.
P.S. Bringing up the revolutionary war is stupid, who the fuck does that? Thats like Canadians brining up the war of 1812 like they seem to do.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=428603 <--- google answers. Google is supposedly omnipotent, the reply is sort of shitty but eh....

[Reefer Rogue]

You can't count out America in WWII. Russia kept the germans occupied on the eastern front and America allowed for allied victories in the west. Remember Japan? We did most of the fighting over in the pacific with Australia at our side. Do you think that if Japan had it's full fleet and military that they would have surrendered to Russia alone? Don't forget that it was the American lend-lease that gave Russia the weaponry that it needed to overcome the German Wehrmacht.
P.S. Bringing up the revolutionary war is stupid, who the fuck does that? Thats like Canadians brining up the war of 1812 like they seem to do.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=428603 <--- google answers. Google is supposedly omnipotent, the reply is sort of shitty but eh....

to answer your question about who brings up the revolutionary war. every american i know brings it up when i tell them im british and yes it is stupid. yes america did most of there fighting over in japan until they were losing and cudnt handle the japenese so they bombed millions of innocent people just so they could save there own lives instead of invading japan. the president at that time even said that. o well it doesnt matter now its in the past lets get over it and toke up

[Euphoric]

yea the atomic bomb being dropped on civilians. pure evil. of course the japanese themselves had Unit 731 which itself was more than sadistic.

[psychocat]

You can't count out America in WWII. Russia kept the germans occupied on the eastern front and America allowed for allied victories in the west. Remember Japan? We did most of the fighting over in the pacific with Australia at our side. Do you think that if Japan had it's full fleet and military that they would have surrendered to Russia alone? Don't forget that it was the American lend-lease that gave Russia the weaponry that it needed to overcome the German Wehrmacht.
P.S. Bringing up the revolutionary war is stupid, who the fuck does that? Thats like Canadians brining up the war of 1812 like they seem to do.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=428603 <--- google answers. Google is supposedly omnipotent, the reply is sort of shitty but eh....

The yanks didn't show up in Europe till it was almost over.
The battle that realy decided the fate of all european countries was fought in the skies above the channel and there were an awful lot of men who lost their lives , the funny thing is that when you peruse the list of names and homelands the lack of Americans is obvious.
Aussies , Kiwis ,South Africans even , and Canadians but no yanks.
Czechs , Poles , Belgians , Free French , Palestinian and Irish but still no Americans. WOW I found one , Haviland Pilot Officer J K American 151 , better than none I suppose. JK Haviland obviously wasn't scared of a real fight.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bob1940/roll.html

P/O John Kenneth Haviland an American was born on the 19th of January 1921 in Mount Kisco, New York. He spent most of his early life in England, starting school there at the age of five. John went to Nottingham University at 17. He obtained his 'A' Licence and joined the R.A.F.V.R. He was called up at the outbreak of war and was posted to I.T.W. at Pembroke College, Cambridge in November 1939. After completing his flying training he went to the No 1 School of Army Co-operation, Old Sarum. He volunteered for Fighter Command, was posted to No 6 - O.T.U. Sutton Bridge in August 1940 and after converting to Hurricanes joined No 151 Squadron at Digby on the 23rd of September 1940. The following day, the 24th of September he collided with another Hurricane during formation practice and made a forced-landing in a paddock at Waddington. He was awarded the D.F.C. on the 16th of February 1945, as a Flight Lieutenant with No 141 Squadron.

As for the supply of weapons , the US were interested only in making money out of any deals , they didn't do it out of kindness or as an act of support to an ally in times of war. They wanted their pound of flesh , as I said the US is only interested in helping itself.

The thing that pisses me off big time is the habit of hollywood stealing the thunder of brits or others and attributing it to americans.
U571 being a perfect example.

An attack by a British destroyer on a German U-boat in the Eastern Mediterranean in October 1942 altered the course of the entire war. The capture of secret German Enigma coding material from U-559, at the cost of the lives of two of HMS Petard's crew, enabled Bletchley Park's codebreakers to crack a new Enigma system introduced to cover a maximum U-boat offensive. After ten critical months with no U-boat signals intelligence available, this was the crucial factor in defeating Hitler's Atlantic U-boat wolf packs before they could starve Britain into defeat in the winter of 1942-3. Had it been possible to release the facts of her triumph at the time, the name of HMS Petard would surely have ranked alongside that of Nelson's Victory in the annals of British history. Because of the top secrecy about Ultra messages that lasted nearly four decades, the Petard's achievement remained unknown, her fame unrecognized. This text is the true story of how HMS Petard attacked and captured U-559 in the darkness of a Mediterranean night. With the use of vivid eyewitness accounts, the author describes how two of her crew swam across to the sinking, abandoned U-boat (ahead of a boarding party in a whaler) went below and passed key signals documents up the conning tower before being trapped when U-559, leaking from damage caused in the Petard's earlier depth charge attacks, sank. Both men were later recommended for posthumous awards of the Victoria Cross but the Admiralty, concerned this might draw unwanted attention from German Intelligence, instead ordered posthumous awards of the George Cross, the highest civilian award for bravery.

http://www.battlefield-site.co.uk/warII_anecdotes.htm

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/2119/

[chrace]

i wish their was another option except yes or no and that is:

"of course"

[dreadhed]

haha, and Americans arnt guilluble. You wen to war based on a lie and you continue to believe your own bullshit...hmmmm

Hay did you know your country is over there too?