Should the U.S. have began started the current war in Iraq

[DaBudhaStank]

maybe we shouldve just let saddam stay in power, he wouldve came close to hitler in number of murders

you non-americans have absolutely ZERO right to tell us how to fight our wars

theres a good reason we're america and you arent

Lol, how are you even still alive?

[overgrowthegovt]

MPLSWeedman...I join DaBudhaStank in expressing my incredulity at your remaining alive (or being able to to tie your shoes). As a "pansy ass Canadian", as you put it, my opinion doesn't matter, but it's clear to anybody that you have no knowledge of wordly affairs whatsoever, no ability to grasp another perspective, no ability to transcend the xenophobic propaganda of your tyrannical government (who has caused more death than Saddam).

I have ZERO right to tell you how to fight your wars? Since all critical debate has been dismissed with a strawman of patriotic, exceptionalist elitism, please feel free to ignore me when I say you have ZERO right to justify your country's savage butchery, horrendous war crimes and shameful disrespect for other nations' sovereignty and right to freedom from economic and cultural imperialism. I'm typically more polite than this, but don't ever, ever fucking try to shut people up with an assertion that you're American and we're not. An American citizen is no more human, more intelligent (as you illustrate quite well), or more deserving of peace and a quiet family life than the citizens of any other country in the world, a concept that seems to get lost in ethnocentric arrogance. Iraqi civilians love their families just as much as you do, and when their brother gets blown to bits they feel it just like anyone else.

[Delta9 UK]

alot of them are so ignorant their opinions don't matter but there really are a lot of grateful people over there

Oh boy does this thread deliver - in spades!

If it wasn't so cripplingly appropriate, this might even be funny.

[MPLSweedman]

say what you will

i just hate reading about canadians' views on america and the war in iraq

when members of your family are killed for no reason in 9-11 you'd agree with me too, but no one bothers attacking canada


show me the civillian deaths like you claim, you guys are believing straight up lies. the numbers are over-exxagerated to get libs like you all fired up. the terrorists over there are animals, blowing up anything they can shoot. i would like to invite ANY of you to talk to a real US marine about what life is like over there and it will change your views completely. iraqi women and children are being recruited as suicide bombers

the honest to god truth is that the american military did a great thing for the iraqi people. no matter who you are or what you think, liberating 12 million from saddam hussein outweighs a few civillian deaths

the problems iraq faces in 2009 are solely religious issues

america did all it could, single-handedly took care of saddam and gave a new chance at life to all of the people. when the sunnis and shiites dont get along, america has no say in what happens. i believe religion is the cause of all wars and until the islamics settle their shit then its never going to work

[overgrowthegovt]

Go to iraqbodycount.org, if you're convinced claims of civilian death are false fuel for liberal rage. This is just Iraq, mind...the death and destruction wrought by your heroes, the American military, elsewhere in the world, would be a much larger number.

If you think the 9/11 attacks were for no reason, examine the U.S.'s foreign policy a little more closely.

I'm not asking this to be insulting; I'm genuinely curious: do you truly believe that the Iraq War is a philanthropic deed, the sole motive for invasion being to kindly liberate the people from an oppressive regime? If that's the case, I guess they need to invade Saudi Arabia, China, half of Africa, etc. next. Or...perhaps ulterior motives come into play?

And hey, I'm not anti-American in the sense that I have anything against the people, and I'm equally critical of my own government's moronic decision to go into Afghanistan.

Oh, by the way, trying to justify civilian death in a whirlwind of rhetoric is cool and to be expected. Denying its existence is not. I have a friend who's joining the army next year, and we've had countless debates about the morality of armed intervention...he also denies Afghani civilians are being murdered by Canadian troops. Japan also claims to this day that the Nanking Massacre was a big exaggeration.

[psychocat]

say what you will

i just hate reading about canadians' views on america and the war in iraq

when members of your family are killed for no reason in 9-11 you'd agree with me too, but no one bothers attacking canada


show me the civillian deaths like you claim, you guys are believing straight up lies. the numbers are over-exxagerated to get libs like you all fired up. the terrorists over there are animals, blowing up anything they can shoot. i would like to invite ANY of you to talk to a real US marine about what life is like over there and it will change your views completely. iraqi women and children are being recruited as suicide bombers

the honest to god truth is that the american military did a great thing for the iraqi people. no matter who you are or what you think, liberating 12 million from saddam hussein outweighs a few civillian deaths

the problems iraq faces in 2009 are solely religious issues

america did all it could, single-handedly took care of saddam and gave a new chance at life to all of the people. when the sunnis and shiites dont get along, america has no say in what happens. i believe religion is the cause of all wars and until the islamics settle their shit then its never going to work

You fail to see the fault in this statement, what does 9/11(mainly Saudi) terrorist attack have to do with the unprovoked attack on a sovereign nation ?
America did nothing single handed , did you forget that it was a joint attack ?
A marine is hardly going to be in a position to tell anyone how the Iraqis feel, I imagine that Iraqis feel the same way you would if they had invaded the US.
I bet you would be out there waving them on as great liberators..

Religion has caused wars ... BUT ... nowhere near as many as greed has.

You really have no idea of my political affiliations so the liberal tag is completely wasted, I'm more a fuck humanity kind of anarchist if the truth be told.
I'm not liberal , I'm not even sociable... :thumbsup:

[painretreat]

Hey pc nice to see ya--lol, you never fail to entertain and edumakate!!!

I support our soldiers for doing whatever we ask, even if we don't believe in it, we have to when we have our brothers and sisters there!

I do not think we should have started the war in Iraq, but I do feel we needed something done. The idea we are chicken shit here and won't fight, I think not. I may seem passive, but I've killed a rattlesnake before!

I believe greed started this war in Iraq and one man's vengence. He should have taken Michael Phelps bong or the American Indian Peace Pipe and put some peace smoke in it. If it didn't work, dope him with the 'truth serum' and make him talk, would be a shorter war. Crap, we didn't even dope him before we sentenced him. Imagine all the military info they could have gotten! When someone kills so many civilians over many years, they should have no rights! Saddam was a very bad person and was killing too many of his own people.

It wasn't until this war I understood Monday morning Quartback analogies! TGIalmostF PR :rastasmoke:

[bobthenuker]

any way you look at it, if you threaten the USA you will get fucked up

you mess with the best, you die like the rest. dont fuck with america and expect us to sit back and watch like pansy ass french or canadians. we get it done

:S2:

You make me laugh man...I don't even think that you believe half the stuff you say...I could be wrong on that though. AMERICA AMERICA WOO WE'RE THE BEST AT EVERYTHING...YES, DOESN'T MATTER IF OUR GOVERNMENT IS RIGHT OR WRONG, AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT SMELLY FRENCH OR CANADIANS!! How about you have a nice serving of...

[painretreat]

Is it possible to stop calling a person Canadian, French and American without it sounding like an insult! This is an international site and that is simply offensive! IT OUGHT TO BE ANOTHER THREAD AT THE VERY LEAST!
Unless the person is the President, Czar, Dictator of the country, they are not single handedly running their country! Even though we feel the responsibility of our Gov't's, it does not mean we personally made the decision's. The hatred makes it difficult to understand the issue! :hippy: :jointsmile: