Quote Originally Posted by mrdevious
Breukelen advocaat, you're not actually buying into this "they hate freedom" thing are you? I'm sure AlQaeda would rather have a suppressive Taliban state than a democracy, but please, don't tell me this whole war on America is simply because they "hate their freedom" . That's about the lamest excuse I've heard from officials, as if we're fighting the forces of Mordor who are furious that every sentient being isn't in shackles and suffering. If freedom was all that pissed them off, America would hardly be their number 1 target, there are tonnes of countries in Europe, as well as Japan, Canada, and Australia that have more freedoms and civil liberties than the states.

A jihad on Holland, a Jihad on the Aussies! lol
But we were the target. The extremists in this religion are insane, and anybody that can't see that isn't far behind them, or misinformed. Their goal is to rule the world with Islam, or see the whole planet destroyed. If they had attacked another country, I'd feel the same way.



Quote Originally Posted by mrdevious
You know after reading the original post again, I find it absurd that giuliani says he "lived through the 9/11 attacks". So what, now anybody who lived in New York "lived through it"? Give me a break, unless you were actually in or around the towers, you didn't live through anything but the usual smog in the air.
Bullshit. Giuliani was right down there, and in very much in harm's way. He lost a number of close associates, and friends.

The toxic chemicals that were released from the attack were not just the "usual smog in the air" - many people are still sick, and some have died from it. Not only were people hurt physically, but many were injured emotionally by Post Traumatic Syndrome, not to mention the loss of jobs, business, and tourism to NYC.

Imagine that had happened to Houston, or Dallas. You can bet that Ron Paul wouldn't dare shoot off his mouth like he has, for fear of being shot.