I appreciate you tellin me about those charts. I took a look at them,and it looked as though the ideal pH for soil was 6.5. It's amazing how good of a grower Arjan is. I have noticed they use a higher pH and higher EC on indica plants, and It's funny you mention my pH. The plant I have now I tested with my pH tester ( although I'm not 100% sure its calibrated quite right, I have had it a year, the needle did move from 7 to 7.2 so I dunno). I used coffee grounds to slightly lower the pH, Maybe you could help tell me whats up with this plant, Zandor, I have been trying to figure it out for about 3 days now.