Narrow minded music "fans"

[Nocturnal Stoner]

If the musician plays their own instruments they have obvious talent.

I must admit though, it's not hard to make a beat on a computer and stick words in with it.

yeah lip but its hard to make a good beat on a computer and stick good words innnit

[Breukelen advocaat]

Jazz improvisation is an art, and most people do not even understand it, much less appreciate it.

The Country music genre is very big. There's the "old-timey" folk styles, bluegrass, the Bakersfield sound (Haggard, Owens, etc.), Nashville, dozens of regional folk styles (e.g. Bayou), and more that we classify as "country" music. Most of the recent recordings of popular country music, from the past fifteen or twenty years, sound more like rock to me. I prefer the older styles of country, and some people continue to make this music - in spite of the major record companies' refusal to release it.

The music industry, as defined by many of today's record companies, is pretty bad - . mainly due to greed.

[Staurm]

yeah lip but its hard to make a good beat on a computer and stick good words innnit

It is hard to make synthetic music sound good, but when it does it sounds amazing. Techno music is my number one styley I always tune into divbyzero.de they usually have some nice progressive shaman-trance going down there. Shame you never hear much from Aphex Twin these days.

[B.Basher]

I'm one of the few people on my course that isn't that much into Aphex Twin.

I appreciate the effort and innovative weirdness, but a lot of the time I find his stuff quite inaccessible. I love his ambient and soundtrack works (he did an AMAZING track for the Dead Man's Shoes OST) but I find most of his other work void of any real identity. A lot of it just comes off as shameless experimentation. Naturally, this is what we call experimental music, but a lot of the time, its hard to fit AT into any real context or purpose (in my opinion obviously).

Still a fan, I just prefer Squarepusher.

[Staurm]

Have you heard Classics (1995)?

He released a new album last year apparently
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[B.Basher]

"Even his work gets a little weird sometimes..."

He's fucking amazing. I had no idea how he made his music until a mate told me about it. He has a MIDI pickup on his bass and basically goes off on insane improvised jazz fusion style riffs that trigger all the immense samples and effects. Would love to see a life show.

[MacWQ33]

Computer? There are SOOO many unique sounds that just can not be made using live instrumentation. You need a computer for at least some part of most music anyway.

That shit is not easy though. Not just anybody can make a beat using a computer (I mean a usable beat). You need some knowledge, creativity, experience, love/knowledge of music...talking about notes, bars, different parts of the song, choruses, first/second/third 16, intro, outro, bridges...snares, hi-hats, bassline, melody, piano roll, you gotta mix it, smooth it out, put everything in place...shit without a computer these days, there wouldn't be the quality of music that we see these days.

[WalkaWalka]

On the topic of country there are some good songs Take les say Jason Boland-Them Boys from Oklahoma, Johny Cash and Bob Dylan-One To Many Mornings, Old Crow Medicine Show-Wagon Wheel, James McMurtry-Choctaw Bingo.

[slipknotpsycho]

I can't stand people that are narrow minded when it comes to music. It's fair enough to have your niche, people that say they like everything seem to think they've heard everything, but I draw the line at people so isolated as to label other music talentless.

Take this barmaid at my local the other day. Pretty safe, even gave me and my chums free drinks. I ask her what kinda music she's into. Kinda went like this:

Her: I love heavy metal. It's my favourite.
Me: That's cool.
Her: Yeah, I can't stand talentless music, I hate it. I hate talentless music.
Me: Umm, ok. Like what?
Her: You know, blues and stuff.
Me: You think blues is talentless.
Her: Yeah, it's awful. Jazz too.
Me: Jazz too, ok. You understand that you'd have no heavy metal if it wasn't for blues?
Her: I don't care, it's rubbish. I hate hiphop too. All computer music is talentless.
Me: I see, you understand that all music production involves computers.
Her: But there's no talent in sitting at your computer like a nerd, thats not music.
Me: But that's exactly how all music is made, even metal.
Her: I don't think so.
Me: I know so.
Her: Well then your just not a fan of heavy metal.
Me: ....

She then went on to say the beatles are the worst band in history and all jazz is nothing but random notes. If she hadn't provided me and my friends with free booze and had a pretty safe goth image going on, I think I would have beaten her to death with a chair.

It's all about eclectic taste and respect for all forms. No matter how much they might grind you the wrong way, there was always an inspired musical mind that came up with it. Least you can do is respect it, or write something that will please everybody, and we all know thats not possible.

Rant over

beetles aren't the worse band in history, ther eare far worse, but they are by far overated...

more so, i think people just don't use correct terms... talentless = it's not my style, worst band in history = exact opposite of my style...

lol... i say shit like that too, but i still don't think i could play music or sing better then anyone i talk shit about.... it's just an over-exageration whichi s pretty much, now a huge part of the english language... just think about how many over exagerations are used day in day out, instead of just empasizing on opinion and feeling...

i tend to be close minded too, cuz i HAVE heard aLOT of what other genre's offer, and i don' tlike it.... i don't waste my time listening to every thing by every band/singer when i can pretty much confirm i don'tlike it...

BUT, if i should hear a song and like it.. i'm not past adding it to my playlist... even if it's in the groub i've labled 'unworthy of further exploration'

also tho if you ask me.... i do find alot of modern music (even music in my comfort genre) to be utterly tallentless.... any idiot with five minutes can write lyrics, any body that has 6 months experience with acomputer and a copule months with a program like acid or w/e can produce beats, and any idiot can make music with an instrument.. that doesn't mean what they're donig is talent... it just means they've had minimal practice...