I'm not slagging Tarantino so much because of the violence, more the terrible scripts he comes out with. I never said Tarantino's films were typically graphic. I watched Reservoir Dogs at the cinema when it came out, I know the camera pans away, which is why I refered to the more suggestive element of his and Roth's films.

They are comparable by the fact they both seem overly fascinated with torture and both used it as the centrepiece of their debut films.

I liked Reservoir Dogs, but after that it was all down hill. Pulp Fiction was just bobbins, I hate that film especially the crappy burger dialogue at the start. Saw bits of Kill Bill 2 and that seemed not too bad.